Top breeder/blood line of panther chameleon

[Charles Wagner]

Looking to get into panther chameleons. What are the top bloodlines and breeders to look for? Money is not a problem, I just want the best

 

[jpowell86]

There is a list of reputable breeders under "Forum Sponsors". Great place to start!

 

[carol5208]

Kammerflage Kreations has been breeding for over 30 yrs and they are a site sponsor. They have developed some beautiful bloodlines during this time. I have gotten two panthers from them and was very satisfied. They are wonderful people do deal with also. It really depends on which locale you decide on that you want, Ambanja, Sambava, Ambilobe, etc. which will ultimately decide who you will go with. Not every breeder deals with every locale.

 

[guanagator]

You'll need to narrow things down substantially before selecting bloodlines, pretty extensive options in the panther market. Are you set on certain colors? Like post said above I think picking a locale would be first step then choosing a breeder that works with those and finally looking at lineages. I've purchased from various sponsors and had good service across the board.

 

[Charles Wagner]

Personally I really like the ones with some purple in them, but from what I understand that is a luck of the draw thing.

Me and my business partner will both be buying one. I think he likes the blue and orange ambilobe's, I like the purple bars (tho I cannot seem to find any with them.)

http://www.chameleoncompany.com/ambilobepanther.html

I know we are going to need 2 blood lines to start off because we both want slightly different coloring.

Also, this next link was wondering if this is possible, or the magic of photoshop
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/25/4b/cf/254bcf580228d3bfa56bf67c1fe309a3.jpg

 

[carol5208]

That my friend would be photoshop!!!! However, there are some Ambanjas I have seen(and one I owned and own now) that at times would display purple or as close to purple as you could call it.The chameleon in my avatar is an Ambanja, but he is fired up. Their resting colors can look completely different. If you like blue(which is the closet to purple) check out Tree Candy Chameleon on Facebook. Shauna is a member on here. She has the cobalt blue Ambanjas. There is a waiting list for her chameleons though, and the last clutch that just hatched is already spoken for. Seeing that it can take close to nine months for them to hatch, you could have a long wait! I purchased an Ambanja from her and he turned out green with blue stripes! However, he is the only one out of that clutch that looks like this!!! I really wanted blue, and that is what I was promised, but by the time his colors matured I was already attached to the little fellow, so I kept him!

 

[Charles Wagner]

Kind of what I expected, colors are a luck of the draw. I would get attached as well and would keep them virtually regardless of what color they turn out to be.

Shame on the purple but expected that as well. Looks like its time to start looking and see what I get. As far as breeders go my partner is very into the rare exotics. What is the most exclusive and looked for panther right now then? Or is it there all about the same, pick one thats closest to the colors you hope for and go for it?

 

[carol5208]

There are so many different ones. As you may or not know, the locale comes from the region of Madagascar where that particular chameleon is found. Certain parts of Madagascar have certain color variations and then they were imported over here and then bred down the line into captivity.. The most common that are bred are Ambilobe, Ambanja, Nosy Be, Nosy Faly and Sambava, There are tons of others...Ankify, Ankaramy(known as the pink chameleon), Masoala, Tamatave....the list goes on. You really just have to rely on the pics of the sire(the male) and go from there. You will get something in that color range, but don't be too disappointed if yours does not turn out exactly like the picture being advertised. Remember, those are the breeders top shelf chameleons that are used for breeding and that is what gets you to buy the chameleon

 

[Carlton]

Color isn't all of it. Don't forget that color is a temporary emotional response, not a static state. A cham who has all the color potential in the world won't necessarily display it if its struggling with undiagnosed congenital health problems, poor care or nutrition, age, or happens to be an easy going tolerant boy. Remember that photos that lure potential buyers tend to be photos of display coloration, not a steady resting state. Trying to make the cham display all the time in order to enjoy the show will eventually cause illness or death. There are other traits that add to desirability and they are even more elusive than coloration. Size for one, and there are some people who try to select for temperament (though chams are still individuals some are more approachable than others). I don't think better breeders are really trying to create the most "exclusive" or coveted color fad of the moment. The animals' well being is so important.

 

[OldChamKeeper]

Worry more about a reputable breeder. You just tossed bread out on to the waters by saying price is not an problem. That can get you screwed.

Ed over Krammerflage has been one of the most reputable in the business for decades.