Super Chameleon ... Bad Picture

[Brad Ramsey]

Here are a couple of pictures of the translucent veiled that hatched today.
I have 11 at this point, all showing varying degrees of the mutation.
This animal is the best so far.
Sorry for bad pictures, but you can see the almost completely white head and tail.
All four legs are translucent.
Neither of my cameras is working ... these pictures are captured from a video.

-Brad

 

[chams1]

Excellent!! (of course, I am referring to the cham and not the pics... ha ha ha) This is great, Brad!! My trans. veiled female is getting ready to lay any day now and I'm so excited now to see what can possibly come from a low end x low end! Keep us updated!

 

[Brad Ramsey]

Excellent!! (of course, I am referring to the cham and not the pics... ha ha ha) This is great, Brad!! My trans. veiled female is getting ready to lay any day now and I'm so excited now to see what can possibly come from a low end x low end! Keep us updated!

Half of the original # of these eggs went bad right away, I was left with 16.
One of those shriveled up to nothing recently and one hatched out with one eye and mangled legs (euthanized )
Three eggs remain and 11 healthy babies are out.
3 of the 11 are high end, the rest are low and so far no normals.
every hatchling has been a surprise and this one today was fantastic!
Hard to gauge percentages since so many eggs went bad early on.
Hey by the way, the January show is on the 23rd.
Good luck with your trans project!

-Brad

 

[AJA]

Well, post the video silly!

So explain the transleucents to me. Would these guys normally survive in the wild? Does the transleucent part ever change color? If this is one of those topics that turn into a shouting match, just PM me and let me know.

Congrats on the babies by the by.

 

[Brad Ramsey]

It is a genetic mutation that occurs naturally.
The survival would probably be lower in a high end mutation due to the diminished ability to blend in (same as with an albino).
The mutated areas are without pigmentation and do not change as the animal matures. They look white or translucent pink and sometimes blood vessels are visible through the skin.
The patterning is random and every animal is different.
Low end animals are ones displaying a minimal amount, usually in the toes.
High end animals show the mutation all over the body and head.
I bred a low end animal to a low end animal specifically to get animals with the mutation.

-Brad

 

[ciafardo 4]

Brad is that the same camera they used to photo the Lockness Monster with?

 

[Chameleons Northwest]

Brad is that the same camera they used to photo the Lockness Monster with?

And Bigfoot, too.

Congratulations! But the lousy photo is just a tease!

 

[Cainschams]

Brad is that the same camera they used to photo the Lockness Monster with?

LOL!!! I may have some bad pics for everyone too so dont worry Brad However I think you are yanking our chains. You just put bleach on that one right? And lots of it!!!! Hahahaha! Cant wait to see a better picture!

 

[chams1]

Hey by the way, the January show is on the 23rd.
Good luck with your trans project!

-Brad

Thanks for the info!! I should have a bunch of new designs by the first of the year so maybe I might have to mozy on out there for the show!!

I'll PM you when my trans. female lays. I'm super excited about this one - she is so HUGE!!

 

[Chase]

He looks good. The pictures aren't that bad, but you can still tell he is a super amazing translucent.

 

[lucky]

i'd like to see an adult one of those. that is awesome!

 

[chams1]

If you want to check out some cool looking trans. veileds, go to FL Chams' website. They have some high end ones with a ton of white all over and even on their faces. (although not to undermine what Brad has produced.... )

 

[AJA]

So would a trans be sensitive to the sun and risk sun burn?


Wow, Brad, your photos make mine look great.

 

[Chase]

So would a trans be sensitive to the sun and risk sun burn?


Wow, Brad, your photos make mine look great.

Yes. Here is an article on it written by Chris Anderson.

http://www.sunshinechameleons.com/translucentveiled.htm

 

[AJA]

Okay, one more stupid question. Are the Viels the only chameleon group showing this trait?

Thanks for the link Lincoln...

 

[Chase]

Actually, Chris also had a topic on the forums showing a translucent K. fischeri fischeri. Here is the link.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/transluscent-fischers-chameleons-1532/

 

[tkilgour]

I also have some translucent veileds and my female is gravid now. Copulation was on 11/15/09, so I cant wait for her eggs to drop and hatch. Congrats on the clutch, these are very neat to have.

 

[eisentrauti]

They look so ill

 

[Syn]

Here I was thinking I'd see a chameleon in a superman costume..

Good luck, Brad.

 

[Lindsey]

One of those shriveled up to nothing recently and one hatched out with one eye and mangled legs (euthanized )

I don't know much about chameleon breeding and genetics, so this may be a totally ignorant question but, could this birth defect have been due to the mutations that cause the translucent skin? Could that mutation have affected the baby's embryonic development? Or does this just happen once in a while in all clutches? (genetics major, I'm curious... lol)

Yes. Here is an article on it written by Chris Anderson.

http://www.sunshinechameleons.com/translucentveiled.htm

Also, those chameleon look neat! A little freaky, but neat!