They are pretty good but some of the parts included are not the best. Like the Habba mister. I personally went on to LLL reptile and kinda built my own starter kit by getting all the stuff I needed. I think it was cheaper and better stuff than the start up kits. But if you are buying a start up kit and Chameleon combined. The Tiki Tiki and Screamelons might be a good deal. I say go with Tiki Tiki. The owner Chad is really cool. JMO