sleeping baby panther and lifting head up

[ReikoChameleon]

hey all

my baby panther female tends to close her eyes a bit through the day for periods at a time and when the other sleep at night they croutch down and grab the plant which seems normal but she lifts her head up to the ceiling...hope there is nothing to worry about but not sure what it could be..she not sure sure if she is eating also cause i have four babies together and the crickets dissappear..maybe i need to give it soem time but just curious if anyone else has had this happen with there babies..thanks guys and happy keeping...cheers:

here is some pics of her when lights are out

 

[dodolah]

you might want to contact your vet soon.
That's a classic symptom of respiratory infection.
Did you hear wheezing/ cracking/ popping noise when she breathe?

 

[Dean Pulcini]

I agree I would keep her at the upper range of temperature and cut back on the misting until you see improvement . Dose she eat like the others?

 

[ReikoChameleon]

not to sure if she eats i just noticed it today... but what could cause it... i will for sure cut back on the misting...does this pass usually??? will thye heal from it???

thanks for the positive feed back

 

[kinyonga]

Lifting the head is not only/always a sign of a respiratory problem....other things make them do this too. Most of the time its not good news.

 

[dodolah]

well, your cham will need antibiotic if indeed the culprit is RI.
the earlier you detect, the easier you medicate.

usually STAGNANT humidity can be attributed as the cause.
or lacking in humidity can also cause RI.

RI or not, better to take her to the vet.

 

[ReikoChameleon]

so what antibiotics should i get and how do you apply it...i am new with very young baby panthers?

 

[PICHISPYTHONS]

your vet would know the best meds for your cham. some keepers use baytril but it is hard on the chams. fortaz is a great alternative to baytril and has proven itself with a few of my own that have had RI.make an apointment as quick as possible and get the little one checked out.

 

[dodolah]

so what antibiotics should i get and how do you apply it...i am new with very young baby panthers?

well, that is for you and your vet to decide.
Baytril, Fortaz, etc etc.
You need to consult your vet since all the antibiotics are prescription only.

application usually via ingestion.

 

[kinyonga]

You need to talk to the vet anyhow...we can only surmise what is wrong with the chameleon on here...you need a vet to tell you for sure. Just giving it an antibiotic when you don't even know if it needs it is not a good idea...you could cause more harm than good.

 

[Nicodemayo]

How would one go about treating a baby with uri? Baytril is a dangerious drug to a full sized cham, i cant imagine its any safer for a baby. Fortaz shots just arent possible on a cham this size. Ive discussed uri with some other breeders and they say that when a baby gets uri, theres really not much you can do and they normally dont pull through. Im not doubing you at all Kinyonga, but i would be curious to hear about how this would be treated by a vet without inducing so much stress on the baby that it dies anyway.

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

Nic I beg to differ...lol Actually, I have treated a couple 2 month olds for URI that were displaying the exact same symptoms. I know exactly what I did to cause it and was kicking myself afterwards but anyhow I gave my little guys .03 CC of Fortaz (injection) for 3 days and after about a week and a half all signs were gone. Now they are a few months older doing great. It sounds like you caught it early so go to the vet ASAP...(this was just my experience not to make it sound like it will work for everyone).

Good luck and keep us posted...ohh keep the misting to a minimum.

-Chris

 

[Nicodemayo]

Nic I beg to differ...lol Actually, I have treated a couple 2 month olds for URI that were displaying the exact same symptoms. I know exactly what I did to cause it and was kicking myself afterwards but anyhow I gave my little guys .03 CC of Fortaz (injection) for 3 days and after about a week and a half all signs were gone. Now they are a few months older doing great. It sounds like you caught it early so go to the vet ASAP...(this was just my experience not to make it sound like it will work for everyone).

Good luck and keep us posted...ohh keep the misting to a minimum.

-Chris

interesting. Do you think this would be possible on an animal smaller than a two month old? Like within its first month. The way the wiggle and run and freak out when you pick them up i would imagine it would be very difficult to make any sort of precise injection. A 2 month old is still very small, but by that age, their bodys are much more developed.

 

[CleanLineChameleons]

Well fortaz is a subcutaneous drug, so basically as long as it is under the skin and not into vital organs you will be ok. Normally I put it right behind a front arm right under the skin. You will see a pocket of the drug under the skin, but it goes away within the day.

I am the kind of person that tries to give every chameleon a chance even if I feel it is headed down a dark road, so if I had a one month old or younger I would try it because it is very rare if ever that they pull out of a URI by themselves, especially young ones. Do I think it would work...possibly.

-Chris

 

[Nicodemayo]

Well fortaz is a subcutaneous drug, so basically as long as it is under the skin and not into vital organs you will be ok. Normally I put it right behind a front arm right under the skin. You will see a pocket of the drug under the skin, but it goes away within the day.

I am the kind of person that tries to give every chameleon a chance even if I feel it is headed down a dark road, so if I had a one month old or younger I would try it because it is very rare if ever that they pull out of a URI by themselves, especially young ones. Do I think it would work...possibly.

-Chris

I see what your saying. Your certainly doing the right thing by giving each cham a chance but something that small, i dont think i could keep my hands steady enough to keep from impaling the poor thing. It would take some precise hands to do it. I would almost think it would be safer to get a micro pipette and administer baytril lol.

 

[ReikoChameleon]

hey all

hey all... just wanted to let you all know that i woke this morning with my little girl sleeping normally and has been great since... thanks all...