should i breed yet? help

[chameleoman]

ok so my female is 8 and a half months and recently she is getting her mature colors and there not fully there yet so i decided to put my male close to her cage and i know its VERY stressful so please no rude comments im very patient to breed theres no rush for me so when i put him near her cage she started bobbing her head and i put him on my bed and took her out and kept her on my arm. then i put her about 1 foot away from him and he started walking really fast towards her so i quickly moved and put her away but her behavior wasnt aggressive she didnt turn black or anything she didnt hiss, she just slowly started walking away NOT running but walking and then i put her away and just put both of them away im going to post pics of the both of them and please give me some feedback about what i should do at this point?

-Joseph

 

[chameleoman]

and some more

 

[mychamtini112012]

Females should not be bred until they are over a year old, preferably closer to a year and a half.

 

[ChameleonNerd]

that would be a sign of reception. the slow walking away. she wants the male to come after her. i believe that means she is ready to breed.

 

[chameleoman]

that would be a sign of reception. the slow walking away. she wants the male to come after her. i believe that means she is ready to breed.

but do you think i should wait until she gets the aqua blue spots and until the orange markings stand out a little more? its just i dont want her first clutch to be an infertile one i know a breeder who breeds the female AS SOON as they get there mature colors even if there not a year and the breeder is good/successful

 

[Olimpia]

I don't know what you want us to say, we believe in not breeding pet females until they get a little older but many breeders do breed this young if the female is receptive and of good size. You kinda have to pick whose advice you want to follow.

Also, many believe that just the sight of a male is enough to trigger a clutch, so you may end up with an infertile clutch anyway. If she's receptive now, which it sounds like it, then she's probably ready to go - with or without the blue spots.

 

[chameleoman]

I don't know what you want us to say, we believe in not breeding pet females until they get a little older but many breeders do breed this young if the female is receptive and of good size. You kinda have to pick whose advice you want to follow.

Also, many believe that just the sight of a male is enough to trigger a clutch, so you may end up with an infertile clutch anyway. If she's receptive now, which it sounds like it, then she's probably ready to go - with or without the blue spots.

should i record a video and post so you guys can see what she does?

 

[ChameleonNerd]

but do you think i should wait until she gets the aqua blue spots and until the orange markings stand out a little more? its just i dont want her first clutch to be an infertile one i know a breeder who breeds the female AS SOON as they get there mature colors even if there not a year and the breeder is good/successful

i think she would be receptive, HOWEVER, it is always a lot safer to wait until about a year old, when they are fully matured. it is just safer, and you might get a bigger clutch

 

[yankfanthom]

I don't know what you want us to say, we believe in not breeding pet females until they get a little older but many breeders do breed this young if the female is receptive and of good size. You kinda have to pick whose advice you want to follow.

Also, many believe that just the sight of a male is enough to trigger a clutch, so you may end up with an infertile clutch anyway. If she's receptive now, which it sounds like it, then she's probably ready to go - with or without the blue spots.

Olimpia is always right LOL!!! You have to decide whether she is your pet or you are a breeder. I breed panthers and I've had some girls that are 8-9 months old go pink and receptive. (currently I have a 6 month old bigger than my 1 year old and she is going to be close to breeding in the next couple of months). Females are going to produce a clutch fertile or infertile so its up to you whether you want to raise up some babies or not. Most females become sexually mature at 6 months so it's really not unlikely depending on how much she eats and your temps that she could be triggered early.

 

[chameleoman]

i think she would be receptive, HOWEVER, it is always a lot safer to wait until about a year old, when they are fully matured. it is just safer, and you might get a bigger clutch

i want to be a breeder in the future but im 13 right now and purpously got a male and female to just breed for the expierience but i wanted a small clutch i already have stuff for the eggs i have incubator cage lights and everything just waiting for the day till they hatch but tommarro ill put them together and see what happens ill be standing by with some gloves on to seperate them if anything goes wrong and ill record it so you guys can see it if you want. . ???

 

[yankfanthom]

i want to be a breeder in the future but im 13 right now and purpously got a male and female to just breed for the expierience but i wanted a small clutch i already have stuff for the eggs i have incubator cage lights and everything just waiting for the day till they hatch but tommarro ill put them together and see what happens ill be standing by with some gloves on to seperate them if anything goes wrong and ill record it so you guys can see it if you want. . ???

If you wanted small clutches a veiled is definitely not the way to go. They can lay 40-50-60 eggs and do it twice with only 1 mating.

 

[KarmaChameleon1337]

Not being rude but why would you ask a question then go against what is safest? Breeding too young can kill your female.

 

[chameleoman]

Not being rude but why would you ask a question then go against what is safest? Breeding too young can kill your female.

i never said i was going against anything i ask for OPINIONS on what i should do going against it would be me saying that im going to do the opposite of what the person told me

 

[DavidBuchan]

So far you have done what I did with my two
I would strongly recommend letting her get used to the idea by laying an infertile clutch before you breed. This also gives you experience of checking for her signs of digging and laying. Helps you iron out any little complications like her not liking the laying bin you made for her.....
Also you can see how many she lays so you can ddecide if you should cut her food or temps a bit more.
It will give her time to recover until she is over a year old. The healthier and more ready she is when you breed the healthier the babies will be

 

[chameleoman]

So far you have done what I did with my two
I would strongly recommend letting her get used to the idea by laying an infertile clutch before you breed. This also gives you experience of checking for her signs of digging and laying. Helps you iron out any little complications like her not liking the laying bin you made for her.....
Also you can see how many she lays so you can ddecide if you should cut her food or temps a bit more.
It will give her time to recover until she is over a year old. The healthier and more ready she is when you breed the healthier the babies will be

I think ill do that it sounds like a good idea

 

[chameleoman]

Well i put them together again to see what would happen and . . . . .she did the same thing she didn't get dark and she didn't run away, she just stood there and started walking away and as soon as she did that he went on the move his colors immedietely brightend and then as soon as she started walking he started running really fast towards her and she just walked but then i just seperated them so i just want a FLAT OUT ANSWER YES? OR NO? should i breed?

 

[pssh]

People recommend that you wait until she is a year old because she is not done growing yet. Putting the stress of producing a fertile clutch on a young female can cause health issues an can shorten her life. It takes more energy and resources to produce a fertile clutch.


EDIT: If you monitor her feeding and temperatures, you can help to lengthen her lifespan by preventing her from producing clutches at all.

 

[mychamtini112012]

We already said that if you want to keep your cham healthy and really care about her well being, NO don't breed her. Wait till she is older and no longer growing.