Shipping to Canada

[Fearaffect]

Has any1 here ever shipped Chams up north and if u have, what is needed as far as paperwork and what carriers will do that next day???

Thanks!

Brye

 

[Chameleons Canada]

Here you go, copy paste from a canadian site (Reptiles Canada):

For Americans Exporting from the U.S.A. (Canadians should be familiar with these steps too)
All animals leaving or entering the USA must be inspected by US fish & wildlife This is generally done at what is known as a designated port . If you are not located at a designated port you must contact your local branch of USF&W and arrange an inspection. At this point a document called a 3-177 will be completed. It is a declaration of import/export of wildlife. This must be done with all animals regardless of whether they are listed under the Washington Convention (CITES).
It is also possible and fairly common to have animals shipped first to a designated port for inspection and clearance, before heading on to the consignee. This is done when the shipper or recipient in the US is not near a designated port. It can however, sometimes get complicated and expensive because a broker can be required to transfer the shipment and arrange for fish&wildlife inspection. This is especially true if different air carriers are involved since Airlines are not obliged to move your cargo, especially into the hands of a competitive Airline. So if you need to hire a broker this can mean that your animals are being put into the hands of a middle man who might very well hate herps(or love them and steal your shipment). It's a bit scary to have someone opening your animals in the middle of their journey to your customer.

If the animals are CITES listed and are Appendix 2 you need to apply To the US department of the interior/F&W for a CITES export permit. (NOTE: this could take months, have seen cases of CITES for chams taking more than 10 months!) This must then be stamped by a wildlife agent at the time of the inspection otherwise the permit is not valid...
You will also now need (since I think bout 97) a US fish and wildlife IMPORT EXPORT license... you need to apply for it. It is $100.00us and is good for only one year. If you are not getting your inspection at a Designated port, but are using a border port you may also be required to apply for what's called an "Exception to Designated Port"permit. It's now also $100US bucks and is good for 2 years.

I guess this gives everybody an idea why US breeders are not really to excited about shipping to Canada,

 

[Fearaffect]

wow......yea I think the person can look in Canada for what they want.....

Thanks for the info!!!

 

[lisa h]

Sadly we don't have a lot of variety here. A lot of times we end up with wild caught. Do you want to pm me as to what the person wants? I may be able to help.

 

[Fearaffect]

Sadly we don't have a lot of variety here. A lot of times we end up with wild caught. Do you want to pm me as to what the person wants? I may be able to help.

Person wants a multituberculatum male.....liked mine so asked if I was willing to ship to them.....

 

[lisa h]

well don't I feel like a dumbass. I don't even know what that is (sorry)

 

[Fearaffect]

Oh come on now.....your not a dumbass......just Cana........nevermind....j/k!!

Standard Fischer's Chameleon

 

[lisa h]

Hey, you pri ... *you* nevermind!
When you put it in "plain english", I know what that is!

 

[lizardboy119796]

Man, I wish more people from the states could ship to Canada, we would have so much more variety. You should really think about it, you would get a lot more buisness if people found out you were shipping down here.

 

[Fearaffect]

Man, I wish more people from the states could ship to Canada, we would have so much more variety. You should really think about it, you would get a lot more buisness if people found out you were shipping down here.

True, but thats alot of stress to put a CB Cham threw, let alone a WC one.

 

[lizardboy119796]

True, but thats alot of stress to put a CB Cham threw, let alone a WC one.

That is very true, their are a lot of pros and cons, its a very hard thing to decide, if you ever got ANY kind of Pygmy Chams, and you decide you will ship to Canada, I would deffinatly buy from you.

 

[Fearaffect]

Also got to figure in the total cost of the shipping......will end up being way more then the Cham. and in the end, if the Cham dies......your outa the money AND the animal.
I'd be willing to get the permits and all if I thought it would be a worthwhile thing....but just dont see it right now.....

 

[Fearaffect]

That is very true, their are a lot of pros and cons, its a very hard thing to decide, if you ever got ANY kind of Pygmy Chams, and you decide you will ship to Canada, I would deffinatly buy from you.

I can get these right now......

Bearded pygmy chameleon(Rhampholeon Brevicaudatus)

Pygmy leaf chameleon(Rhampholeon Temporalis)

Green longtail pygmy chameleon(Rhampholeon Viridis)

Montane pygmy chameleon(Rhampholeon Accuminatus)

 

[lizardboy119796]

Yea your right, if you decide too later on remember, there are people in the states, selling panthers, for 150, or 175, and here, the cheapest I can find, is 325, you guys have awesome prices compared to us.
But you are right, it would put a lot of stress on the animal.

 

[lisa h]

That is very true, their are a lot of pros and cons, its a very hard thing to decide, if you ever got ANY kind of Pygmy Chams, and you decide you will ship to Canada, I would deffinatly buy from you.

I'm in Manitoba and I have bearded pygmy eggs right now. Keeping my fingers crossed! I will post any good (or bad) news to the list when the babies come.
I also have a source for pygmies if you want to pm me.

 

[lizardboy119796]

PM sent....