rudis stool
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carol5208
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are you sure it is blood and not the attached part between the urate and the poop. Sometimes that is orangish in color. however, it is RED than that is a different story. Do you have any pics you could post? Obviously blood in the stool is not a great sign, whether it is an animal or human.
KarmaChameleon1337
Avid Member
That definately looks bad. You should take it to a vet.
It may be actual organs that have prolapsed not just a hemipene. Agree with kinyongia - keep it moist with KY jelly and get to a vet asap for surgical correction! If that tissue gets infected from being exposed to the outside environment he could become septic and die. And if it becomes necrotic same fate.
bigben2057
New Member
That looks like one of his organs.
burnedrose
New Member
I'm going with prolapse here. I've seen many a hemipene and it's generally a lot pinker than that, at least from what I've seen. If i recall correctly, the dark red color is actually the veins that run through the colon/intestine (which is what is hanging out during a prolapse). Now, I know this sounds weird, but I have encountered this with humans in my line of work. The best course of action, with humans, is actually using olive oil and not lube, as the lube is actually part of what can cause the prolapse in the first place. Basically, the lube allowed a somewhat of a suction effect on humans.
If you use olive oil, it keeps it moist, it doesn't hurt the exposed organs with chemicals in the lube and once the doc gets everything tucked back up, the body has an easier time either absorbing or expelling the oil rather than the lube. Now, some people who prolapse their anus can actually ease it back in by relaxing and prodding the muscle tissue over and over again. This isn't recommended though, since many times it can introduce infection to the anus. Then again, this is all I know FOR HUMANS and not for chameleons.
So unless you are into prolapsing your anus, I agree with the take to vet idea, but I recommend using oil for lube over KY jelly, just because I, personally, don't know the effect KY Jelly chemicals will have on a chameleon.
If you use olive oil, it keeps it moist, it doesn't hurt the exposed organs with chemicals in the lube and once the doc gets everything tucked back up, the body has an easier time either absorbing or expelling the oil rather than the lube. Now, some people who prolapse their anus can actually ease it back in by relaxing and prodding the muscle tissue over and over again. This isn't recommended though, since many times it can introduce infection to the anus. Then again, this is all I know FOR HUMANS and not for chameleons.
So unless you are into prolapsing your anus, I agree with the take to vet idea, but I recommend using oil for lube over KY jelly, just because I, personally, don't know the effect KY Jelly chemicals will have on a chameleon.
Since chameleons never use "lubes" I'm sure it wouldn't have caused the prolapse....and besides, many vets have recommended K-Y jelly for prolapses in reptiles. I would worry that mold/fungus growth might be encouraged by using olive oil....and fungal infections can often happen when a prolapse has occurred.
burnedrose
New Member
All my info is for human prolapses, not chameleons. I think I mentioned that. I know jack squat over cham prolapses. Also, it is very hard for olive oil to grow a fungus - it will go rancid before it grows a fungus and then it will take years for it to be oxidized down to the point of being able to host a fungus. There's a reason it used to be used to clean out wounds.
edit: dont mean for this to sound snobby at all...sorry if it sounds that way!
edit: dont mean for this to sound snobby at all...sorry if it sounds that way!
sophiechameleon
New Member
geeze that does not look good! it actually looks similar to what happened to a snake that i owned...i would take it in to a vet i agree with bigben2057 it looks like on if his organs but im not sure im pretty new to this too
So I took Rango to the vet yesterday, it seemed as if he was fainting already...... eyes wouldn't open and movement was to a minimum. Turned out that he pooped his guts out. The vet tried to insert it back in but couldn't and recommended to put him to sleep. So my wife and I decided to put him out of his misery and gave him a burial in our yard. My little brother is grieving. 
Thank you for all your suggestion to keep him moist and so forth.
Thank you for all your suggestion to keep him moist and so forth.
KarmaChameleon1337
Avid Member
Sorry for your loss, some things it's almost impossible to be ready for, but you were a good husband and took him to the vet.
I'm so sorry to hear that. My condolences.
burnedrose
New Member
I'm so sorry for your loss.
