Rep-cal and mineral all

[Azthebarber]

So I just got three things in the male just want to know how often to use them ?Repcal calcium with vit.d3 it's the pink label and the multivitamins the blue label and I also have the sticky tongue farms mineral all indoor supplement.

 

[ataraxia]

plain calcium?

 

[Hoj]

from the sound of it you have the yellow top mineral W/d3 and the rep-cal w/d3, as well as the multivite.
you need a plain calcium and only one with D3 i suggest the mineral. jmo
then you will use the plain calcium without D3 at most feedings
the calcium with d3 2 times a month
and the multivite 2 times a month
hopr that helps

 

[carol5208]

you want to get the minerall outdoor, that one contains no d3. Then use the one with the d3 twice monthly and the multivitamin twice a month also.

 

[Azthebarber]

Thank you very much I love this place

 

[kinyonga]

Here's some information I hope will help you with supplementing, etc.....
Appropriate cage temperatures aid in digestion and thus play a part indirectly in nutrient absorption.

Exposure to UVB from either direct sunlight or a proper UVB light allows the chameleon to produce D3 so that it can use the calcium in its system to make/keep the bones strong and be used in other systems in the chameleon as well. The UVB should not pass through glass or plastic no matter whether its from the sun or the UVB light. The most often recommended UVB light is the long linear fluorescent Repti-sun 5.0 tube light. Some of the compacts, spirals and tube lights have caused health issues, but so far there have been no bad reports against this one.

A wide variety of insects that have been well fed and gutloaded should be fed to it.

Since many of the feeder insects we use in captivity have a poor ratio of calcium to phosphorus in them, its important to dust the insects just before you feed them to the chameleon at most feedings with a phos.-free calcium powder to help make up for it. (I use Rep-cal phosphorus-free calcium).

If you also dust twice a month with a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder it will ensure that your chameleon gets some D3 without overdoing it. It leaves the chameleon to produce the rest of what it needs through its exposure to the UVB light. D3 from supplements can build up in the system but D3 produced from exposure to UVB shouldn't as long as the chameleon can move in and out of it. (I use Rep-cal phos.-free calcium/D3).

Dusting twice a month as well with a vitamin powder that contains a beta carotene (prOformed) source of vitamin A will ensure that the chameleon gets some vitamins without the danger of overdosing the vitamin A. PrEformed sources of vitamin A can build up in the system and may prevent the D3 from doing its job and push the chameleon towards MBD. However, there is controversy as to whether all/any chameleons can convert the beta carotene and so some people give some prEformed vitamin A once in a while. (I use herptivite which has beta carotene.)

Gutloading/feeding the insects well helps to provide what the chameleon needs. I gutload crickets, roaches, locusts, superworms, etc. with an assortment of greens (dandelions, kale, collards, endive, escarole, mustard greens, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet potato, sweet red pepper, zucchini, etc.)

Calcium, phos., D3 and vitamin A are important players in bone health and other systems in the chameleon (muscles, etc.) and they need to be in balance. When trying to balance them, you need to look at the supplements, what you feed the insects and what you feed the chameleon.
Please note that various supplements have various amounts of D3 and vitamin A and so some can be given more often than others. The idea still is not to overdo the fat soluble vitamins like D3 and prEformed vitamin A.

Here are some good sites for you to read too...
http://chameleonnews.com/07FebWheelock.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200605020...Vitamin.A.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200406080...d.Calcium.html
http://www.uvguide.co.uk/
http://web.archive.org/web/200601140...ww.adcham.com/
If you can't access the sites above that have the word "archive" in you can do it through the WayBackMachine.

 

[JRchameleons]

Just to clarify, you do still need to get plain calcium without D3 to use almost every feeding. The others you should use sparingly, like twice a month as others have suggested. Make sure you don't mix calcium with multivitamins; they're more effective if you use them on different days.

 

[Hoj]

just a thought, what type of chamelon is it, this info is for veiled and panthers mainly, im assuming panther by your avatar but want to be sure

 

[Azthebarber]

yes they are panthers that's my boy Picasso as my avatar and i just got a baby girl on valentines day named her Rose. thanks for the help

 

[sandrachameleon]

Just to clarify, you do still need to get plain calcium without D3 to use almost every feeding. The others you should use sparingly, like twice a month as others have suggested. Make sure you don't mix calcium with multivitamins; they're more effective if you use them on different days.

You have two products with D3. You dont need both. Return one of them for a "plain" calcium.

How often you use each supplement should be contingent on the type of feeder you are offering, what you feed those feeders, and the Brand of supplement (the two you have with D3 contain vastly different amounts of D3)
etc

in addition to the info Kinyonga provided, have a read of these:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/65-supplements.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/174-whats-supplements-brand.html

 

[pssh]

You can actually use the minerall indoor much more often than twice a month if you are going by how much d3 is in it. I would still get a plain calcium though.

 

[Azthebarber]

Thanks I will do that and get repti calcium without D3