Rearing in groups versus in isolation
- Thread starter deadhd5
- Start date
bobcochran
Chameleon Enthusiast
It would be interesting to try the same experiment with other species.
I have always raised pardalis in groups for the first couple of months and they show very little aggression toward each other. Then after they're separated
for a while it's like they're mortal enemies, even the females.
I have always raised pardalis in groups for the first couple of months and they show very little aggression toward each other. Then after they're separated
for a while it's like they're mortal enemies, even the females.
italian chameleon
New Member
Very interesting! I'd like to read the whole article though
Big Gulp
Established Member
another test, Ballen studied how long it took the animal to gobble up a pinhead cricket placed in its enclosure.
"We used the time from when the cricket was exposed to the animal to when the animal caught the cricket as a measure of foraging ability," she says.
"Those who were reared in groups were able to catch their prey more quickly than those reared in isolation," says Ballen.
This just seems obvious, since there would be competition for the food. Of course they're gonna react quicker and go for the prey.
Interesting stuff tho.
"We used the time from when the cricket was exposed to the animal to when the animal caught the cricket as a measure of foraging ability," she says.
"Those who were reared in groups were able to catch their prey more quickly than those reared in isolation," says Ballen.
This just seems obvious, since there would be competition for the food. Of course they're gonna react quicker and go for the prey.
Interesting stuff tho.
deadhd5
Avid Member
It does seem natural. My father eats 2X faster than anyone else at our table. I asked him about it and he said that it was a result of growing up poor with many siblings; if he didn't eat fast, his older brother would come for his food.
This study only proves that chameleons adapt to their environment as any other living organism would. If you are bullied you learn quickly to fight back (or die). If there is competition you learn quickly to get food first (or die). I don't see much that this study tells us beyond that chameleons are intelligent enough to learn to survive in different conditions.
There is certainly some interesting work that can be done to determine how a chameleon grows up differently depending on how much social interaction it gets. Perhaps in how much of coloration is innate and how much may be learned?
Now, some of the work our members have been doing with free ranging have generated some results worthy of questioning some of our long held beliefs on what chameleons are capable of as far as social interaction (with both humans and other chameleons). I have quietly put away everything I thought I knew and have loved sitting back, watching, and being amazed.
Bill
There is certainly some interesting work that can be done to determine how a chameleon grows up differently depending on how much social interaction it gets. Perhaps in how much of coloration is innate and how much may be learned?
Now, some of the work our members have been doing with free ranging have generated some results worthy of questioning some of our long held beliefs on what chameleons are capable of as far as social interaction (with both humans and other chameleons). I have quietly put away everything I thought I knew and have loved sitting back, watching, and being amazed.
Bill
rshewfel
Established Member
Very nice. I really like this.
This just made me laugh. Have you ever sat down to eat with someone who was in the military? They are done eating before anyone else and then they just sit and wonder what took us so long.
Doesn't mean its a healthy way to eat, just that you learn to eat fast or go hungry. So learned responses are not necessarily good responses. Just food for thought, don't digest it too fast . Similar threads
