RARE species. Pics of what I could recover

chameleonneeds

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Well Ben Im sorry it took me so long to post just the pics of there habitat but here the pics are aswell as a pic of a baby pumilum.

I had a good 10-20 pics of about 10 different chameleons but all the pics are gone from the camera! There might be a chance that they are on another PC here at my house so I will try recover them.

Bet you guys dont get to see B. Pumilum everyday!
Ive found around 10-20 pumilum in the bushes left and right of this pathway. The pathway is maybe 100-250m long. Then if you go the other way it goes on for about 400m.

They seem to stick to certain types of bushes. Depending on if they are babies or adults. But have found a new location where I find them.

Sorry I talk to much heres the pics
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I found about 4 babies in 2 minutes on this bush. Babies seem to stick to bushes like this.
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The baby:
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Same baby almost identical pic. . .sorry
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Hope you enjoyed them
 
Thanks guys its always nice finding them even if I have seen plenty.

It is not that dry lol, the ocean is literaly about 30-50 meters away from the pathway.

I have found these guys on strands of long grass on beaches.
They are not far from the most southern point in Africa.
In winters it rains and it can get to -2 C and the chameleons still act normaly in that weather.
In summers it gets very very hot, but the place is evergreen, I manage to find them no matter the time of year. But always better in December as it is the peak of breeding season so males are bright green.
 
thats guttin seeing those pumilum, i have been searching for this species in the uk for ages but no one seems to have them, only 1 guy in bristol!!!!
 
thats guttin seeing those pumilum, i have been searching for this species in the uk for ages but no one seems to have them, only 1 guy in bristol!!!!

They are not a very easy to care for so make sure you buy very good conditioned animals (if you do get the oppurtunity). How much would he make you pay for them?
 
Thanks for showing us another part of the world where chams live. :)

Always a pleasure. I try to take pics of all the places where you can find these bradypodions. I have some pics of the landscape of Knysna (where you find damaranums), despite me finding none :(
 
Seems like you guys are very short with these chams.

I want to work with them legaly. For the mean time I just enjoy catching them and photographing them.
 
Nice photos and thanks for sharing them as well as your observations. Do you ever find any babies or small subs out when it's really cold? Also, since you guys were talking about exporting them it reminded me of something I'd heard a while back about a certain South African reptile expert who was supposedly going to be able to send true cbb Bradypodions out. Is that even possible? Isn't all of your wildlife protected from exportation, cbb or not?
 
Nice photos and thanks for sharing them as well as your observations. Do you ever find any babies or small subs out when it's really cold? Also, since you guys were talking about exporting them it reminded me of something I'd heard a while back about a certain South African reptile expert who was supposedly going to be able to send true cbb Bradypodions out. Is that even possible? Isn't all of your wildlife protected from exportation, cbb or not?

Based on my understanding, different South African provinces/states have different rules with regard to whether or not they permit any of their local Bradypodion being kept and bred. In states where they do permit individuals to work with them, as long as the animals were legally acquired and the keeper had proper permits, etc., CBB offspring can be exported legally.

Chris
 
Yeah Chris is right. Aslong as I can first get catching permits (they allow me to keep the animals for 3 months, then must be released where it was found). You can then try get keeping permits but it gets quite hard to get them. If you can get them then its all good. Then I would breed them, and when I have babies I must put them under permits aswell listed if they are cbb or whatever else. Then they should be able to be exported but thats a whole other complicated process.

Unfortunetly I dont have the funds to really start anything up like that with a whole breeding project, im sure if I really did then I would get the permits.
When I do have the funds (probably when I have sold 2 batches of panthers) then I will have setups much like Chris Andersons.
Im only 15 and it isnt legal to work here till you are 16. So the only money I can make is from chameleons. And luckily that is still very possible in S.A.

In the Winter I have found 4 or 5 babies and a gravid female. Gravid in winter pretty strange.

But Chris with the provinces and their sort of different laws. I have done alot of research and have found the laws only differ in provinces when you talk about exotic animals. Like in KZN they allow you to import anything you want aslong as it is not listed in the potential invasive species list, and I think they cannot be listed appendix 1.

Its basicly the same laws for the indegenous animal keeping or whatever for all provinces.

I havnt found any full specified documents regarding bradypodion species and the laws about them, Im sure there has to be 1 somewhere around or atleast some info about it.
 
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