Rango finally showing colors

[hunter11]

Hey there, youll might not remember me very well, i dont post very much and i normally just stalk the forums. well i've had my veiled cham for about 3 monthes now and i really love these animals, they bring me such joy to look at and care for, anyways he is finally showing off some colors and im really happy for him. he's certainly not the most colorful but i love him.

http://i.imgur.com/f84xb.jpg

also if anybody can help me with his age that would be amazing, the petstore had no idea.

 

[ChamomilleCame]

He looks great!! Nice yellowish there hold him on your finger, I can't really tell from photo :S

 

[byrnesr]

Hey there, youll might not remember me very well, i dont post very much and i normally just stalk the forums. well i've had my veiled cham for about 3 monthes now and i really love these animals, they bring me such joy to look at and care for, anyways he is finally showing off some colors and im really happy for him. he's certainly not the most colorful but i love him.

http://i.imgur.com/f84xb.jpg

also if anybody can help me with his age that would be amazing, the petstore had no idea.

Are you sure this is a veiled?...looks more like a "graceful". I'd like to see more photos.

There is a suspicious bump on the right front arm just above the elbow, could be the start of MDB or previous break. Does he have these on other limbs? Does he lay on branches frequently or not often.

Also he has some unique coloration. More pics plz.

 

[hunter11]

ill post more pics after this post, im not really sure if he is a veiled or not, thats what the local petstore told me, but they werent taking very good care of them, so i wouldnt trust them, heck i dont even shop there anymore because of it.
hes always on branches, ill post a pic of his cage too!

 

[hunter11]

Here are a ton of other pictures. btw, thats my dad holding him, not me, lol.

http://i.imgur.com/My9oZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KwDTv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bgPXd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/piwJ3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qAGvo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nQgiI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/d0NQr.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8bi1m.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xk6sx.jpg

and yes, he is always sitting on a vine, he usually only moves for food, water, or plant cover.

 

[hunter11]

right now he is laying on a vine with his back right leg hanging off the vine, should I be worried?

 

[byrnesr]

right now he is laying on a vine with his back right leg hanging off the vine, should I be worried?

He's not a veiled. I stick with my first guess. I see a what looks like a tarsal spur in one pic so I'll say male also. From only the pics you posted and your comments, I would be suspicious of his health. I rarely see my cham laying on branches or vines, certainly not when held. The pic of your enclosure is a great start. It looks to have all the necessary things, lighting, heating, shade, etc. Perhaps you could post your caregiving facts, wouldn't want to get you worried about nothing.


Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

 

[Solid Snake]

Hey there!
Glad you are enjoying your buddy!
Hes definitley not a vieled

Graceful sounds likely.

I dont see any health issues from the pics JMO.
It never hurts to fill out the form though.

I would recommend switching your basking bulb for a regular white house bulb. The color more closely resembles the sun, so it is more natural for them.

...and dont be such a stranger!

 

[hunter11]

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - graceful, male, not sure of age, beginning of 2012
Handling - once a week to clean his cage, or add new stuff
Feeding - crickets? like 3 a day, ive been told to fed more so im starting to. i feed him after his morning misting. i have a pretty sizey plastic cage for the crickets and i have gut load in a cap.
Supplements -
flukers calcium dust for crickets, i always calcium dust them.
Watering - i have a dripper set up to drop on a vine. once every 2 hours with a hand mister, i just get the leaves wet and vines, i dont spray him directly. i see him drink but not very often.
Fecal Description - poop is black, urine is kinda yellowish but its mostly white. he has not been tested for parasites yet.
History -not that i can think of

Cage Info:
Cage Type - full screen 24 x 26 x 12
Lighting - zilla uvb, nocturnal infrared heat lamp, my white one broke so im using this for the time being
Temperature -
heat stays around 80, overnight is around 60 to 75? i have a thermometer in the cage
Humidity - like 50-60? I am using a repti-fogger, am using a hygrometer
Plants - im waiting to build a bigger cage for the live plants
Placement - on a tall dresser? its not near any vents, it is in my room.
Location - Dallas, Texas

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

 

[byrnesr]

I would agree that three a day (crickets) seems low at a young age. Try offering three times daily. You might be surprised that he'll take three each time. Try hornworms to help hydrate when urine starts turning yellow. But they grow fast! Wax worms to give a little fat, mealworms or superworms to spark an appetite. Butterworms for some calcium and variety. Tired of the crickets chirping? Try Dubias. Easy to keep, last longer, and just as good for your cham.

Also you didn't specify if your calcium is w or w/o D3. Nor did you mention a multivitamin dusting. You might want to review the supplement recommendations on this site and others in relation to your specific species.

From your pics (resting on vines, most notable resting head on vines and while held) and your comments, you have one chill cham or he may be lethargic. If you feel your cham is lethargic have him looked at by a qualified vet in your area to better identify why. And grab a fecal for your vet before you go. Only you know your cham...these are JMHO.

 

[thatoneguy]

definately a male graceful. he looks about full grown almost.he looks like he could use some hydrating. all the bruises and what not should start going away with his sheds. i would try to get a fecal done for parasites, you mention the fogger dripper and mistings but he still looks a bit dehydrated. could be a parasite. also it says you have a nocturnal light if this is for his basking during the day thats fine but i wouldnt use any lights at night. it disrupts their sleep. i also have a graceful, if you have any other questions id be happy to help you out