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[Lyneeso]

I ordered two veild chams, 1 male and 1 female, each approx 3-4 months old. They are from two different sets of parents. two bloodlines. I am worried about them fighting, or breeding too early. Are my concerns well placed???? I have two seperate cages but was hoping that they would be able to hang-out together on my tree in my room. lol. anyways, any info would be appreciated.
Thank You, Lyneeso

 

[Chamaeleoeo]

try to attempt to minimize stress as much as possible, males get feisty quick. visual barriers are a very good idea.

 

[Lyneeso]

lol, you mean like an eye-patch?

So, use of visual barriers is a good way to minimize stress. Thanks! However, is it unheard of to keep 1 male and 1 female vield in the same big enclosure? If so, how big is big enough? dimensions? I would also like to know if there is a website that sells crickets/worms that has a good reputation for prices and live/fresh arrival gaurantee. Any extra info is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Lyneeso

 

[jojackson]

Its not unheard of, there are always exceptions to a given rule, but its not reccomended since chams are for the most part, secretive loners. The two sexes meet breifly in the wild and the female will either change color to say 'ok lets party' or turn dark to say 'rack off bozo', and walks away. Interactions are breif, so if they are 'trapped' together within the confines of an enclosure they will probably become stressed.
Stress is a big reptile killer, no#2 after the shovel !

Stress weakens the immune system and makes them suseptible to disease.

If you were planning on a largish 'free-roam' area to allow them some 'natural' interaction on occasion, thats probly not too bad, but they are best housed singly.

48" x24" x 24" is generally touted as 'standard' for adults and males.

 

[kinyonga]

If you keep them together until/after they are sexually mature, they will mate. In the wild the female could escape the male but in a cage she is trapped. Do you really want to put the burden of laying eggs on her system when she might not be finished growing herself?

 

[Chamaeleoeo]

So, use of visual barriers is a good way to minimize stress. Thanks! However, is it unheard of to keep 1 male and 1 female vield in the same big enclosure? If so, how big is big enough? dimensions? I would also like to know if there is a website that sells crickets/worms that has a good reputation for prices and live/fresh arrival gaurantee. Any extra info is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Lyneeso

im actually developing cham eye patches for those chams that are pirate fans! j/k. are you new to chams? typically them interacting would be more of an advanced keeper who has been keeping them for many years and can recognize any issues early on. ive seen an adult male veiled and adult female veiled in an enclosure together and they both were so stressed. the male was forcing her out of the basking spot and stressing her out as to the point she was on the bottom of the enclosure. basically like others have said its just not a good idea. theyre not a pet to hold. and they are solitary animals. to spend your money in the wisest of ways keep them alone!!! set up boards or hang sheets to keep them from seeing eachother. more stress = more issues. and if i were you i would start breeding some dubia right away! save you a lot of money. plus if you kept them close to eachother with a barrier, you could use a single 48" Repti sun from LLLreptile.com 18'' to 48" are the same price!!!! 13.99, best deal out there...

 

[dodolah]

So, use of visual barriers is a good way to minimize stress. Thanks! However, is it unheard of to keep 1 male and 1 female vield in the same big enclosure? If so, how big is big enough? dimensions? I would also like to know if there is a website that sells crickets/worms that has a good reputation for prices and live/fresh arrival gaurantee. Any extra info is greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Lyneeso

I'm guessing you can put them together inside a cage that is as big as a greenhouse.