Prepping to get my first chameleon

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RyanBRZ, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Chameleon Enthusiast

    Every feeder has a drawback. Dubia is a perfectly acceptable staple feeder but as said above variety is key. Think of Dubia as the main course and all the other feeders as the sides dishes.
     
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  2. amfire125

    amfire125 Established Member

    I've seen a lot of feeders on Ebay and have had success with it. Also Josh's Frogs has a lot of quality ones as well. I still end up going to the pet stores from time to time, sadly... and unhappily...lol.
     
  3. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    I have a local feeder insect breeder and a local exotics pet shop, so if I’m ever running low and shipping is too long or expensive, I always have a couple stand-by options that are reasonably priced and have the more unique feeders (not superworms, crickets, or a single hornworm). It’s definitely worth looking into. Of course, a regular pet store wil also work
     
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  4. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Chameleon Enthusiast

    It may sound intimidating being a new keeper but every Cham keeper really should have feeder colonies going. They are really easy to maintain, especially Dubia. Besides the tiny crickets for Roux I couldn’t tell you the last time I paid for feeders, saves so much money!
     
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  5. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    I was actually watching a video on breeding dubia's last night, I may go that route if that is going to be my staple. This way I can stop at petstores for the variation items, while I will always have my staple item on hand. Can I start a colony if I buy say 1 male and 3 females, or should I do 2:6?
     
  6. SirWilliamj

    SirWilliamj Member

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  7. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Chameleon Enthusiast

    This is what I would start off with, it will take time for the colony to start producing enough to replace what you use. F276B15B-FA65-410B-A752-EBBFDB3CF903.png
     
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  8. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    Will a chameleon eventually adapt to their light schedule? Since getting my cham he has been settling down to his sleeping quarters at around 7pm -- I've had his lighting at 11-11 since getting him. A few days ago I thought I would adapt to him since this was his schedule so I changed lighting to 7 to 7. He then started going to bed at around 5pm, which means when I get home from work at 5:30, he is already out of sight. I want to see him for a little bit when I get home each day, and give him a treat of some kind. I moved it back to 11-11, do you think he will adjust?
     
  9. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    Keep it at one schedule, don’t change it. If 11-11 works for you, leave it
     
  10. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    I know.. I didn't mean to switch it up on him like that. Just trying to be able to see him each day. It will stay 11-11, hoping he adjusts.
     
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  11. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    Thanks for the idea, I just ordered 250 eggs and a 1/2 lb of mulberry farms silkworm food. I have an incubator I can use from when I bred leopard geckos.
     
  12. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    No problem! Keep silkworms in the fridge, though. I believe its in the low 30s (F) so they don't hatch
     
  13. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    Now that you say that, should I hatch all 250 in one shot? Or do maybe half now and a half in a few weeks? How long will they remain at an edible size for my little guy?
     
  14. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    I take like 20-30 out at a time so once they get to size, I can feed them all off, since you can't refrigerate silks like you can horns
     
  15. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    When you say take out, do you mean take eggs out of the fridge to incubate/hatch? But then you have X days for them to hatch and grow into a food item..right?
     
  16. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    I believe they're good for up to four or six months in the fridge. I take out the amount I know I will be able to feed off once they get to size (I've got two chams-and a turtle who'll eat what's too big), and let them hatch and grow at room temperature, no incubator needed. But if you want to breed your own, let a couple turn into moths and you can put the pupae into the incubator
     
  17. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    Ok, so do you use these as a treat? I'd like to hatch to use as a staple item along with dubias. Maybe I can stagger them by 2 weeks or something. I need to look up hatching and growth time lines.
     
  18. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    I use these as one of my staples (I try to always have at least 3-5 staples in rotation).
     
  19. RyanBRZ

    RyanBRZ Established Member

    Ok cool, yeah FL chams told me he used silkworms as a feeder before selling him so I figured it was worth a try.

    Regarding this "I take out the amount I know I will be able to feed off once they get to size", I assume you do not take out say 15 eggs, wait for hatching, wait for growth, feed, and then repeat? Can you give me some input on your process, it will really help me when I get my eggs.
     
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  20. ERKleRose

    ERKleRose Avid Member

    So I'll take out ~20-30 eggs, or however many you can feed off before they get too big, and halfway through growing to the size I need, I'll take out another 20-30 eggs so I never run out of silkworms to feed off
     
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