possible MBD help please.

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bryan92392

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Hello. To begin I just opened this account because I'm concerned although I have been looking for a forum to join. I purchased a male veiled cham about 3 months ago. When I bought him he was about 6" 7" I fed him crickets all the way through just regular crickets from petsmart. Occasional superworm and I also occasionally dusted feed with calcium + d3. this is the bad part. The person I spoke to when purchasing my cham sold me a uva light bulb and said it had uvb included. It didn't. I just noticed yesterday and rushed to the petstore and purchased exo terra solar glow 125w professional series and I have a branch sitting about 8-10" from the light it says it has 30cm uvb reach. The enclosure is custom made wood and screen it's 3x2x3 I had organic soil on floor with a ficuss plant a pathos and multiple artifiCial branches. I mist it 3 times a day. After learning that my cham had basically no uvb all this time I began to observe and notice when he eats his bottom jaw is flexible and sometimes rarely he jitters or shakes a little bit when turning or trying to grab a branch as of today he's about 14" maybe 12"
 
can you post a photo please???


welcome to the forum, sorry its under such circumstances.

MBD signs- falling, grabbing itself, bent and curved limbs, 'extra' joints.
 
can you post a few pics of him? Hopefully you caught it before it gets too serious. When you say you dusted occasionally, can you elaborate. You need a plain calcium with NO d3. Use that at every feeding, and the one with d3 twice monthly. Also get a multivitamin to use a couple of times a month as well. Get your chameleon outside for some natural sunlight too if you can.
 
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Forum!! You get excellent help here, at times you may not agree but trust me there are definitely chameleon experts on here..Your Cham has gone 3 months in your care without any UVB? Did you ever take you cham outside, at all? If your Cham is/could still walk and climb around. Normally and his joints are not rounded.. Then you may be in luck and he/she may not have been siphoned with MBD just yet.. Check his/her joints to make sure they're not rounded.. Make sure they're nice and pointed on both arms and legs of your Cham.. And you said its month bends while it's moving? Is it discolored? Black-ish? It may be possible mouth rot.. Will you upload a photo of him/her please? Don't get worried.. I may be wrong about the mouth rot..
 
Thanks, by the way is there a phone application for this app? A interface?
 

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Fortunately.. Based on that photo, your Chams joints look good, it may not have MBD, or it didn't show yet.. But i think you're okay here!! .. :D
 
He moves fine climbs fine sometimes when I open the cage he lounges towards me at speed usually when he is hungry. When he chews his gums los like rubber his arms look a bit rounded Hind legs not so much
 
he looks ok, if he does have mbd, its early.

just fill out the form, and take more pics of his face please. from both sides
 
I'm getting ready for work I'll have to fill it out on my lunch hour. Tomorrow I'm headed to petsmart because I'm furnishing my fish tank so I'll have to pick up some supplements and regular calcium and expose to unfiltered sunlight. He w
 
your cham looks pretty good to me. Hopefully you caught it before it took its toll, although 3 months is awhile to not have any uvb. Glad you got the light and start following the supplement schedule I gave you and you should be ok.
 
you may not find calcium wihtout d3 at the store.. i couldnt.
i had to order it online.


natural sunlight is best. just remmeber, uvb cant pass through glass or plastic. so placing him by a window wont do any good.

but 4 or hours outside in real sun, is even better than a uvb bulb.

try to find some pheonix worms, calci worms reptiworms (all the same thing) they are all the same thing, and they are high in calcium.
 
Here are two more pics will fill out form soon
 

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well i dont see any mbd, and it normally shows up in the joints.

the jaw isue, may be something else, i think you should see a vet for that.

on another note- he looks kind of skinny, how much does he eat?

and whats his basking temp?
 
I find him at the floor of the enclosure regularly it's 3 feet tall. He climb down the screen wall all the way to the bottom and hides...my a.c. broke 5 days ago. Haven't been working at all and I live in Florida. His enclosure thermometer reads 95f near the mid top
 
Bryan was the first pic you posted and the last two taken just now? The reason I ask is your chameleon looks skinnier in the last set of pics? How much do you feed a day. Also, do you gutload your crickets, meaning what do you feed them?
 
bryan92392 said:
I find him at the floor of the enclosure regularly it's 3 feet tall. He climb down the screen wall all the way to the bottom and hides...my a.c. broke 5 days ago. Haven't been working at all and I live in Florida. His enclosure thermometer reads 95f near the mid top
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and thats why hes on the floor.

hes too hot!!

i keep my adult male at 88. and higher and he hides at the bottom.


i would get him a bigger cage, we recommend a 2x2x4 foot cage for adult males.

how often do you mist? he looks a bit dehydrated.
 
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