Hey Guys im getting really worried about Red my 5 and a 1/2 month old panther. In the last three days he has fallen from his plant twice ( although i think its because he is getting too big and the leaves are slippery so he is finding it hard to support himself) This morning i went to hand feed him his first couple of crickets like i always do and he wasnt intertested so i tried a wax worm, he seemed interested then tried to shoot his tounge, it didnt make it as far as my hand which was quite close( maybe 4 inches away) but he was still looking at it like he wanted it. He didnt shoot at it again but when i put it near his mouth he munched it like crazy. Im just scared with the combination of these two incidents and im worried they are related. I will post the ask for help form underneath.
Please help! Falling and Problem with Tounge
- Thread starter kiwi3333
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Panther , Male, and 5 and a half months. How long has it been in your care - 2 & 1/2 months
Handling - Daily in really small amounts just to get him used to me
Feeding - a mixture of crickets, dubia, wax worm and cali worms? Currently eating about 10 crickets a day, one dubia and a couple caliworms wax worms as a treat. He is fed in the morning first thing, food is taken out at night just before lights out, hes cup fed and screen fed/fee ranged sometimes. They are gut loaded with Commercial feeder gut load and a variety of fresh veggies
Supplements - He gets Zoo Med repti Calcium without d3 every feeding. ZooMed repti Calcium with d3 on alternating thursdays and for vitamins he 2 a month he gets a selection of -Komodo chameleon dusting powder, nutrobal or Exoterra multivitamin on alternating thursdays witht he d3. However i do feel i was over supplementing, his crickets would be white so i have started heavily dusting the first hand fed insect he gets that day to limit the amount of supplements.
Watering - He has a Habba Mister, a Dripper, a Fogger and he gets hand sprayed 2twice a day
Fecal Description - Looks normal, white urate, and present everyday.
History - brought from the breeder at 3 months old. Tested for parasites a week after i got him. Vet said there was a very small amount of worm eggs in his stool she wants to retest him in a couple of months to see if the numbers have multiplied i just have to daily spot clean which i did anyway and i have to disinfect his cage once a week which ive been doing.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Medium Reptibreeze, good size for him just now, plenty of room, big cage on the way.
Lighting - Zoo med repti sun basking bulb in a dome above basking spot and arcadia compact D3 bulb sitting in zoo med terranium hood. both sitting directly on top of eclosure.
Temperature - Sorry but to be accurate i will give it in celsius not farenhiet as that is what my thermometer reads in - Basking spot is around 30 celsuis Lowest overnight temp so far has been 19 general cage temp around 23. These are mesured on a digital thermometer.
Humidity - between 50 and 80 % done using a fogger and meausre by a digital hydrometer.
Plants - live plants and fake plants, live plant is pathos but he doesnt eat it or anything
Placement - corner of my room , very low traffic and away from noise top of cage is about 5 foot off the groud
Location - Scotland
Current Problem - as mention above just worried he has fallen a few times over the last couple of days and this morning he had problems with his tounge. Any help would be appreciated. I tried to make a vet appointment but i cant take him unitl next week which im hoping isnt too late.
Your Chameleon - Panther , Male, and 5 and a half months. How long has it been in your care - 2 & 1/2 months
Handling - Daily in really small amounts just to get him used to me
Feeding - a mixture of crickets, dubia, wax worm and cali worms? Currently eating about 10 crickets a day, one dubia and a couple caliworms wax worms as a treat. He is fed in the morning first thing, food is taken out at night just before lights out, hes cup fed and screen fed/fee ranged sometimes. They are gut loaded with Commercial feeder gut load and a variety of fresh veggies
Supplements - He gets Zoo Med repti Calcium without d3 every feeding. ZooMed repti Calcium with d3 on alternating thursdays and for vitamins he 2 a month he gets a selection of -Komodo chameleon dusting powder, nutrobal or Exoterra multivitamin on alternating thursdays witht he d3. However i do feel i was over supplementing, his crickets would be white so i have started heavily dusting the first hand fed insect he gets that day to limit the amount of supplements.
Watering - He has a Habba Mister, a Dripper, a Fogger and he gets hand sprayed 2twice a day
Fecal Description - Looks normal, white urate, and present everyday.
History - brought from the breeder at 3 months old. Tested for parasites a week after i got him. Vet said there was a very small amount of worm eggs in his stool she wants to retest him in a couple of months to see if the numbers have multiplied i just have to daily spot clean which i did anyway and i have to disinfect his cage once a week which ive been doing.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Medium Reptibreeze, good size for him just now, plenty of room, big cage on the way.
Lighting - Zoo med repti sun basking bulb in a dome above basking spot and arcadia compact D3 bulb sitting in zoo med terranium hood. both sitting directly on top of eclosure.
Temperature - Sorry but to be accurate i will give it in celsius not farenhiet as that is what my thermometer reads in - Basking spot is around 30 celsuis Lowest overnight temp so far has been 19 general cage temp around 23. These are mesured on a digital thermometer.
Humidity - between 50 and 80 % done using a fogger and meausre by a digital hydrometer.
Plants - live plants and fake plants, live plant is pathos but he doesnt eat it or anything
Placement - corner of my room , very low traffic and away from noise top of cage is about 5 foot off the groud
Location - Scotland
Current Problem - as mention above just worried he has fallen a few times over the last couple of days and this morning he had problems with his tounge. Any help would be appreciated. I tried to make a vet appointment but i cant take him unitl next week which im hoping isnt too late.
Kate
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Your supplements seem a bit chaotic. IMO he should have a LIGHT dusting of Komodo cricket dust daily and Nutrabol twice a week. Nutrabol contains a small amount of d3 and multivits so you don't need anything else. I think you need to change his plants to more sturdier ones so he doesn't fall. What are you gut loading his feeders with? You could check out Sandrachameleons blogs on gutloading they are great. Temps seem ok.
