Parsons chameleon
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Justin Carl
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yea i believe their are a quite few breeders here in the usa.
with incubation being so long who knows when a clutch will pop up unanounced
with incubation being so long who knows when a clutch will pop up unanounced
dragonbreeder
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I myself have not heard of a successful parson breeding since the 90's. I used to have one from the Robert Velten clutch (see avatar).
As for the more recntly availble juveniles that were floating around in 07, I have concerns regarding where those came from.
As for the more recntly availble juveniles that were floating around in 07, I have concerns regarding where those came from.
Canopy Chameleons
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The Kammers have been offering CB Juvi's, and I thought I saw one on the FL Chams page as well.
pohchunyee
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Blue Beast and FLCham's parson were those imported by Underground Shipment. However, I think Curtis is breeding parson as we speak. Hopefully some will turn out for sale this year.
CleanLineChameleons
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I believe pohchunyee is correct, Curtis is working with a few this year. But incubation of the eggs is about a year and a half...sometimes a few months early or later.
So I don't think you will see any out of him this year. Does anyone actually know whether Kammers actually bread two of theirs two year ago or obtained an imported gravid female?
-chris
So I don't think you will see any out of him this year. Does anyone actually know whether Kammers actually bread two of theirs two year ago or obtained an imported gravid female?
-chris
Canopy Chameleons
Established Member
The Kammers have been working with the Parsons for at the minimum since 2004. And the babies are CB, not CH. I'm not 100% sure about the babies, but Captive Bred generally means they were bred in captivity.
HiroProtagonist
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In a few years they'll be more common. Save your money until then, they'll be a fraction of the cost.
CB, probably, but that doesn't mean that the Kammers Parsons were bred by the Kammers... They came from Europe, that's just not very clear when you look at it (they don't say they bred them, and don't say who the parents are). Kammers have had Parsons much longer than 2004, but they have yet to hatch them out.
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
LOL, people have been saying that since the 90s and the price has only gone up. There have been a couple small true CB clutches hatched here in the US in the past few years but most have been CB imports.
Chris
Kent67
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Yeaaaaah, but the Europeans are having soooo much success and have Parson's everywhere that once they teach us how to do it, they'll be common and less expensive right?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Chris Anderson
Dr. House of Chameleons
Yeaaaaah, but the Europeans are having soooo much success and have Parson's everywhere that once they teach us how to do it, they'll be common and less expensive right?
Haha, its amazing how some of these "successful breedings" yield babies from multiple Calumma species in the same clutch. Almost like magic
Chris
Hairfarm said:
LOL the only reason Europe sees Parsons chameleons is because the animals make a pit stop there on their way to the US from the places they really originated from. For those of you that aren't following this conversation, there's still no "European Breeder" that I know of that has claimed to hatch out all these animals.
Chris Anderson said:
And also, how they're able to get "siblings" to grow at widely variable rates, widely variable colors, widely variable parasites (and diseases), and as Chris said, a few Globifers that must have hatched out of the eggs incubated at cooler temperatures (in Europe).
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Justin Carl
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in a near by pet shop mostly reptiles. A gentleman said he use to pick up parsons for 50 dollars each. that was years ago. they were wild caught.
Justin Carl
Avid Member
woow! wish i was into them then.
