Panacur
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Ryan Jarosek
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As a general rule I only fix what is broken.
I do at least one fecal a year. Mostly every six months or so.
GooglezNvincent
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What is panacur?
Ryan Jarosek
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I would recommend you try reptaid vs panacur. Many have had good results.
You can find it here
http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/
You can find it here
http://www.chameleonsnorthwest.com/
Ryan Jarosek
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I am saying I would not give a medication just to do it. If there was a problem with parasites detected in a fecal I would.
Reptaid is natural and will not cause harm if you wanted to just treat as a preventative measure.
GooglezNvincent
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very nice! ok o is it like a powder substance or like a shot?
GooglezNvincent
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Ok and so you get like an ear dripper and drop it into their mouth?
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Eric Adrignola
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I'm skeptical - I've seen no science backing it. Is there any study done on it? I'd be interested. Natural things will help with some parasites, but mot natural herbal cures are much more dangerous to the hosts than medicine. Parasites, especially worms, are tricky - their bodies are more similar to ours, and it's difficult to harm them without harming us. That's why some naural cures - wormwood, for instance - can have bad side effects (Absinth is made from wormwood).
Despite the fact that panacur is a chemical, it's pretty specific in how it works. It is really hard to overdose an animal with the stuff. You can pretty much force feed a chameleon tablespoons of the paste and they'll be no worse for wear - dehydrated, maybe, but it's otherwise gentle on vertebrates.
Despite the fact that panacur is a chemical, it's pretty specific in how it works. It is really hard to overdose an animal with the stuff. You can pretty much force feed a chameleon tablespoons of the paste and they'll be no worse for wear - dehydrated, maybe, but it's otherwise gentle on vertebrates.
Ryan Jarosek
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Eric,
Have you tried it?
I have not seen and studies only testimonials and personal experience using the product as well as others with similar results. What I can tell you is I have never seen a negative result of using it. I have seen it work or not but have not seen or heard from anyone having negative results.
Infected animal , treated with reptaid , fecals to follow the progress and improvement in a few of the animals it has been used on. It is true that it may not work for every situation but I can only speak of my experience.
So I should have stated "In my experience" ...
Thanks for the info on pancur I was not aware it was so safe to use. I still would rather only treat if needed. I prefer the method of treating the problem only if there is a problem.
Edit: I should add, I totally agree that natural things can be just as bad as chemicals or worse. That and Eric is far more experienced than I am .
Eric Adrignola
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...Well, I'm taking a microbiology class, so applicable stuff gets worked into my posts! Panacue is very safe. Try to get dosages right, of course, especially in weak animals. however, I usually just estimate, and put an appropriate amount right into their mouths as they eat.
Reptaid might very well work as advertized. I have not used it. I probably won't, until I see more results - just the way I am. Took me until I saw published data and numbers before I even considered UVB bulbs.
I've used flagyl and panacur often, when needed. Two females got conjunctivitus and couldn't eat themselves for months. Even wiht hand feeding, I couldn't keep them both healthy - one was fine, but the other got sickly. Even after their eyes cleared up, one was really sick. she had pinworms, whihc cleared up really fast with two or three treatments of panacur. I continued with the flukers stuff - repti aid - I think. I caught her in a BM, and it was pretty much the same as it went in - a dull liquid. No pinworms at all, but a quick smear revealed swarms of flagellates. I had to grind up the flagyl, mix the dose into the repta aid stuff, and give it to her. She's still bad off and may not make it, but her stoll two days later was actually solid, with no protozoans apparant.
amazing how fast the stuff works. I hope she makes it. She's the only one with those protozoans in her, so they must have been included with the purchase.
I want to get a hold of the flagyl S from Mexico. it's in suspention, and SOOOO much easier to dose and administer. Regular flagyl does not dissolve nor suspend in liquid very well.
I'd love some easier treatments, if they work.
Anyone know of any sources of bacteriophages? They work well for topical infections, with pretty much zero side effects. The FDA won't approve them because viruses are prone to mutations. The risk is that if it's approved one day, it could have a different genetic makeup the next! Kind of impossible for the FDA to stand behind something that's essentially uncontrollable. So, we're denied their use.
A shame, as they can work wonderfully, especially against bacteria that have developed immunity against antibiotics.
Bacteriophages, or phages, are viruses that attack bacteria only. They are usually complex for viruses, and harmless to anything else. The problem is that they do stuff to bacteria - weird stuff. for instance, the bacteria that causes botulism - one of the most deadly nerve toxins in nature - is NOT produced by the normal bacteria. The bacteria is the factory for it, but the code for the poison comes from a virus that inserts its DNA into the bacteria's, changing it so that it makes the stuff. Crazy stuff.
Reptaid might very well work as advertized. I have not used it. I probably won't, until I see more results - just the way I am. Took me until I saw published data and numbers before I even considered UVB bulbs.
I've used flagyl and panacur often, when needed. Two females got conjunctivitus and couldn't eat themselves for months. Even wiht hand feeding, I couldn't keep them both healthy - one was fine, but the other got sickly. Even after their eyes cleared up, one was really sick. she had pinworms, whihc cleared up really fast with two or three treatments of panacur. I continued with the flukers stuff - repti aid - I think. I caught her in a BM, and it was pretty much the same as it went in - a dull liquid. No pinworms at all, but a quick smear revealed swarms of flagellates. I had to grind up the flagyl, mix the dose into the repta aid stuff, and give it to her. She's still bad off and may not make it, but her stoll two days later was actually solid, with no protozoans apparant.
amazing how fast the stuff works. I hope she makes it. She's the only one with those protozoans in her, so they must have been included with the purchase.
I want to get a hold of the flagyl S from Mexico. it's in suspention, and SOOOO much easier to dose and administer. Regular flagyl does not dissolve nor suspend in liquid very well.
I'd love some easier treatments, if they work.
Anyone know of any sources of bacteriophages? They work well for topical infections, with pretty much zero side effects. The FDA won't approve them because viruses are prone to mutations. The risk is that if it's approved one day, it could have a different genetic makeup the next! Kind of impossible for the FDA to stand behind something that's essentially uncontrollable. So, we're denied their use.
A shame, as they can work wonderfully, especially against bacteria that have developed immunity against antibiotics.
Bacteriophages, or phages, are viruses that attack bacteria only. They are usually complex for viruses, and harmless to anything else. The problem is that they do stuff to bacteria - weird stuff. for instance, the bacteria that causes botulism - one of the most deadly nerve toxins in nature - is NOT produced by the normal bacteria. The bacteria is the factory for it, but the code for the poison comes from a virus that inserts its DNA into the bacteria's, changing it so that it makes the stuff. Crazy stuff.
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