2 both new. The veiled is 5 months and then we have the Panther. My husband use to have a veiled years ago and wanted another chameleon. I’ve done so much research he said I went down the rabbit hole. Foggers, misters, uvb, jungle dawn all of it… he never knew about UVB or the misting and fogging. But if I’m going to have any animal/reptile I want to make sure they have what they need. The veiled “Hunter” is getting his 2x2x4 today. Just waiting for Amazon to deliver the drip pan then it’s move in time.