Not Eating Enough

Billie Smallz

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Hello, I have a five month old Nosy Be Panther. I am writing this because I am concerned he is not eating enough. Generally I put 10 two week crickets or 7-8 medium phoenix worms around 11am-12pm and I come back around 6:30-7 from work and there are 3-4 left, sometimes more. He eats crickets, dubia roaches and pheonix worms in the same quantities. He is also not very big. At this age he should be growing and eating quite a bit more. I am wondering if I am doing something wrong or I am being overly concerned and should give him more time.


Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
- 5 month old Male Nosy Be Panther I have had him for 3 months.

Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
- Once a week

Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
- I feed him anywhere from 11am-1pm. He gets 10 two week crickets or 6-8 medium phoenix worms or 8 small dubia roaches. I alternate gutload with bug burger, butternut squash, spaghetti squash, sweet potato, yams, papaya, mustard greens, collard greens,

Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
-4 days a week zoomed Repti Calcium without d3, 3 days a week repashy calcium plus, dinofuel raptor edition every two weeks.

Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
-I use the monsoon misting system, It mists for 1 minute every two hours starting at 8:30am and his last misting is at 6:30, an hour and half before bed so the cage has time to dry out. I see him drinking daily.

Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
- normal. firm brown with white urate

History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
-Small reptibreeze 16x16x20. I will upgrade to a 2x2x4 soon.

Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
- 8am-8pm. I have him in my bedroom so if I'm in there with the lights off after 8 I put a dark sheet over his cage. Ive peeked in and he seems to be sleeping fine. I forget the brands of the lights but I bought them at the petstore, my guess is zoomed. My heatbulb is 50w and my uvb is a 5w tube.

Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
- His basking spot is generally 87 and the lower sections are mid to low 70s. At night the temps are in the low 60s.

Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
- It spikes in the high 80s and never really gets below mid to low 50s. I measured with a digital hygrometer the first couple of days but I haven't checked in a couple of months. Its the rainy season here so I'm not super concerned.

Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
- I have a ficus, a money tree, and a Pothos.

Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
- The top of the cage is around 5 feet off the ground, It sits on a desk. There are no vents nearby. The cage is in my bedroom as I have roommates and do spend a bit of time in there. I try not to bug him but its really hard not to say hi like 5 times a day.

Location - Where are you geographically located?
Portland, OR


Current Problem - I don't think he's eating enough, although I could be overly concerned. I would just like to know if there is any glaring problems with my husbandry. I can take a picture to show you my set up. Maybe he's just a late bloomer. :confused:
 
Im having the same issue. its starting to really get me concerned. Idk if its just the season change causing them to be weird but in the last three days my cham has barely shown ANY interest in superworms, butterworms, or crickets. hes eaten maybe 2 in the last 3 days. Other than that he drinks, hes active, no obvious color changes or anything, hes just being a huge CHODE and won't eat... i was hoping he would be a fatty and eat everything by now.
 
Can you post some pictures of the little guy? If your crickets are only 2 weeks old they might be really small for him by this point. Have you tried larger crickets maybe 3/8 or 1/2"?

Also, that cage is too small for him I would upgrade to something a little larger sooner than later. I don't know if I recommend going right to the big 2x2x4 as it might be too big for him but you definitely need something bigger than the 16x16x20.
 
I agree, unless he is really small for his age, he should probably be eating bigger crickets. They can eat bugs that are smaller (from side to side, not head to butt) than the space between their eyes.
 
At his age he should be on at least 1/2 inch crickets. I would try going up to this size and see how many he eats. Also you have to remember Chams do go through a "hibernation" in the winter time. They want to be warmer and they tend to eat less in the winter time
 
Thanks for the suggestions. I stepped him up to 3-4 week crickets. For the last couple of days it he has been eating about 5 a day. I will try to snap a picture of him tonight. He is not "really small", and I have definitely seen growth in him since he came under my care. As far as the cage size I ordered the medium but I was sent the small. Would the 16x16x30 or the 18x18x36 be best at this age? I will go get him a bigger environment in the next couple of days.
 
here are some pictures of him.
 

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