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[kinyonga]

You are trying to compare a C.calyptratus/veiled chameleon with a C. africanus regarding reproduction...but veileds can produce several clutches a year and the africanus generally produces one. (You would do better to compare C. africanus to C. chamaeleo.)

Africanus........
http://web.archive.org/web/20060824001121/www.adcham.com/html/taxonomy/species/chafricanus.html
Calyptratus.........
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/2007/12/breeding.html

I have kept both C. calyptratus and C. chamaeleons for quite a few years...hatched both...raised both to adulthood.

With veileds, they can reach sexual maturity as early as 4 months of age and can actually produce a clutch at that age. They can lay clutches about every 120 days whether they are with a male or not. It takes about 30 days from the mating until the eggs are laid. They can also be slowed down on the frequency of reproduction and the size of the clutch by controlling their diet and to some degree the temperatures they are kept at.

I have seen veileds kept together in 1.1 pairs (1 male, 1 female) and one or both will almost always suffer from the stress it creates. However, C. chamaeleons can be kept together in pairs and it seems to be okay (possibly because they only breed once a year so there is less stress?)....don't know about C. africanus since I have not had enough experience with them.

Regarding using milk powder...I can't give you an answer since I've never tried it. What I posted in my previous post about the husbandry is the way I keep my chameleons and the veiled females live to be over 6 years old and the males even older. My C. chameleon females and males lived to be over 6 too...so I haven't changed what I do.

 

[JaxyGirl]

Hi! I just wanted to welcome you to the forum. There is tons of Info here and plenty of people to help at anytime. Enjoy!

 

[cham gr]

You are trying to compare a C.calyptratus/veiled chameleon with a C. africanus regarding reproduction...but veileds can produce several clutches a year and the africanus generally produces one. (You would do better to compare C. africanus to C. chamaeleo.)

i am not comparing these species by their reproduction cycle.i am saying that they share many commons in their anatomy (their crest is a storage of fat)
and comparing the size veiled chameleons and african chameleons are much closer in anatomy rather common chameleons.
they also share almost same habitats,only the line of sea splits yemen and saudi arabia opposite from african countries.
looking at the size of the crest and its usage of fat storage you will understand that these species have big storages because there are hunger periods due to food availability and over winter periods.

With veileds, they can reach sexual maturity as early as 4 months of age and can actually produce a clutch at that age. They can lay clutches about every 120 days whether they are with a male or not. It takes about 30 days from the mating until the eggs are laid. They can also be slowed down on the frequency of reproduction and the size of the clutch by controlling their diet and to some degree the temperatures they are kept at.

i already said for winter temperatures and cycle effect.

I have seen veileds kept together in 1.1 pairs (1 male, 1 female) and one or both will almost always suffer from the stress it creates. However, C. chamaeleons can be kept together in pairs and it seems to be okay (possibly because they only breed once a year so there is less stress?)....don't know about C. africanus since I have not had enough experience with them.

while the cage has enough space for the speciments to adopt areas and there are no signs of stress in their colours or in their feeding scedule i suppose everything flows by now.


there is no doubt that something that works nice for you so many years there is no need to change something at all.

 

[kinyonga]

You said..."i already said for winter temperatures and cycle effect"...when I said....."They can also be slowed down on the frequency of reproduction and the size of the clutch by controlling their diet and to some degree the temperatures they are kept at"....I was not referring to a seasonal cycle of temperatures...I'm referring to a cycle within their reproductive cycle. I also follow a seasonal cycle as well but it might not be quite the temperatures that happen in nature.

I have been able to stop egg production in female veiled chameleons and then turn them around and have them produce clutches of fertile eggs when mated with a male (of course). I have raised the babies into adulthood and kept the females from producing too.

Some of my information on the veiled chameleons comes from over 15 years of experience with them (and about 25 years of experience with chameleons and many other reptiles) but some of it comes from a study I played a small part in concerning reproduction in veiled females (in particular hormone levels during their cycles).

Although C. chamaeleons may be slightly smaller than the C. africanus and have a shorter casque, they still go through cold winter temperatures and need good fat supplies to do it.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Hello! We are 2 new members. Many apologizes if we don't post this thread at the right part of the forum...
We just got our 2 four-month calyptratus chams a week ago, and we are excited as we get familiar with this spieces.
Except for out new pets, we have mostly snakes.
We hope that we can exchange experiences and knowledge through this forum! Many greetings from greece!

Welcome to the forum!
I recommend following the advice provided by kinyonga.