Need help sexing senegals please

[Jbujarski]

Originally I was told that I had a male (Mfwic) and a female (SinClaire) but was recently thrown off when I was told my male looked gravid and it got me thinking I was told wrong. Any insight as to what they might be would be helpful

Mfwic
http://s484.photobucket.com/albums/rr210/shiiitsweakk/?action=view&current=photo-8.jpg
http://s484.photobucket.com/albums/rr210/shiiitsweakk/?action=view&current=photo-9.jpg

SinClaire
http://s484.photobucket.com/albums/rr210/shiiitsweakk/?action=view&current=photo-10.jpg
http://s484.photobucket.com/albums/rr210/shiiitsweakk/?action=view&current=photo-11.jpg

I tried to get the best pictures of the tail base but they weren't overly cooperative today.

 

[Yoshi and Daredevil]

I'd talk to Trace about it he helped with mine.

 

[Jbujarski]

I was waiting for someone like that to chime in haha

 

[Kibu]

Show a pic please.

 

[Jbujarski]

Show a pic please.

There's four...

 

[Trace]

I think you have two females there. The male senegalensis have a pronounced hemipenal bulge that I'm just not seeing on either of those two animals. I don't think either of them are gravid.

Sadly most Senegal Chameleons are wild caught and take a bit of effort to establish in captivity. I think Mfwic looks good but SinClaire is a bit thin. Make sure those gals get lots of water and I think getting a fecal done at some point on both would be prudent. These guys come in with large parasite loads which if left untreated can compromise their overall longterm health.

They are a neat underrated species so have fun with them.

Cheers,
Trace

 

[Jbujarski]

Thank you!

Mf has been in my care since the beginning of feb and started about the same size as sin. I've only had here about a month a half now and she eats more than any of my other chameleons.

They really are a neat species.