Namaquas for Sale??

Interesting...

If that's what they really are, I would think $100/pr is a steal. You should ask for pics, that'd be a cool species to have. I'd probably buy them all at $100/pr if I was still doing chams.
 
I never thought I'd see an ad for namaquensis in the U.S. I think I'm going to wait until I see a photo of these animals before I get too excited. I have a feeling these are going to be a species from the C. chamaeleon complex...

Fabián
 
I think that this is impossible. First of all those are extremly cheap (they very very rare in their habitat). And what I know Namibia doesn't import anything
 
I emailed them earlier and told them that if they could send pics and they were in fact Ch. namaquensis that I would buy them all. I highly doubt it though. They are probably Ch. africanus if I had to guess.

Chris
 
Even better, they'd be kept in my backyard LOL. We even have those black beetles here that you see them eating in pics, at the dunes just North of Vegas.

Someone update this thread when they hear back from them to confirm or deny what they really are.
 
I wouldn't touch them unless I lived in the desert myself!

I heard people say (which I don't know if it's true or 100% B.S.) that someone(Ron Tremper, I think) got some in and couldn't deal with them them. They were ravenous - eating insane amounts of food, and drinking water like crazy if offered to them, they also woldnt' sit still - took lots of space. Which is understandable.

Anyone heard the same story? Is it true?
 
Rocky said:
For anyone like me that had no idea what these were you should check this site out.

http://www.arkive.org/namaqua-chameleon/chamaeleo-namaquensis/video-10.html

It has a lot of pictures / videos. They look awesome, I bet if you told everyone how you kept them they would go crazy... since they are a desert species that can run and dig in the sand at night I would assume they wouldn't be kept in a tall screened in enclosure ;)
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At this side there are also a lot of other amazing chameleons :D
 
Eric Adrignola said:
I wouldn't touch them unless I lived in the desert myself!

I heard people say (which I don't know if it's true or 100% B.S.) that someone(Ron Tremper, I think) got some in and couldn't deal with them them. They were ravenous - eating insane amounts of food, and drinking water like crazy if offered to them, they also woldnt' sit still - took lots of space. Which is understandable.

Anyone heard the same story? Is it true?
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Yeah, I believe there's a story/article somewhere about how Ron was given permission to collect and export them to the US. I don't remember about the food requirements but I do know the attempt to keep them ultimately failed. If I remember correctly, they speculated it was their/our inability to cool them sufficiently at night that makes the species so difficult to keep.
 
Eric Adrignola said:
I wouldn't touch them unless I lived in the desert myself!

I heard people say (which I don't know if it's true or 100% B.S.) that someone(Ron Tremper, I think) got some in and couldn't deal with them them. They were ravenous - eating insane amounts of food, and drinking water like crazy if offered to them, they also woldnt' sit still - took lots of space. Which is understandable.

Anyone heard the same story? Is it true?
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I haven't heard from first hand basis, but from readings on a few sites I just did it was saying that they are very much like that.
1. Would either attack something viciously or run away and hide.
2. They patrolled huge area's of territory daily and attacked anything inside it.

And I would assume their dessert instincts would tell them to gorge themselves on water since they rarely see it.

On a side note, I just tried to call and didn't get an answer, maybe he'll call me back.
 
Talking to them on the phone isn't going to do any good. If they aren't Ch. namaquensis, they obviously don't know how to ID them and won't be able to tell you anything over the phone. If they are Ch. namaquensis, the only real way to convince any of us is to show pics. They should reply to at least one of the emails we've already sent so we'll see what happens.

Ron wrote that article for me to put on the old CCIC site. I still have it but would need to dig it up. Once I get a chance to update the profiles on CCIC, it'll be back up. To be honest, I would guess their difficulty is a combined effect of water intake (they get their fluids from morning dew and food ingestion), temperatures (nighttime lows & daily highs) and space.

Chris
 
They are really beautiful animals and there are very few people who have been succeslful breeding them. I only a small group of people who kept/keep this species. I'm searching for them quite some years now.

I think chris is right and first pictures needs to be shown. A few years ago indeed africanus where offered as namaquensis.

If it's true i hope some people get them who are experienced enough as they have special needs.
 
There were some for sale on recycler or craigslist here in LA a few weeks ago. They were calling them desert chameleons or something and had photos up.
 
Haha it's a shame that experts who aren't able to differentiate between namaquensis and the chameleons of the gracilis group can import that animals which require so special handling
 
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