Hey guys first time posting so all help is much appreciated. I recently had a male veiled die in a matter of two days. I say that because he was perfectly healthy and then one night I noticed him having issues climbing around or moving for that matter, and the next morning woke up to find him laying iIN his water bowl. He made it one more day after that but basically just laid on the floor of my screen mesh cage. I had humidity issues but didn't think they were severe. What could cause such an instant decline in health? Humidity? Dehydration? Feeding?
My Veiled died
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okiroo
Avid Member
dehydration mabey...your suposed to mist not use water bowls. he could have drown also. idk tho. im sorry for your loss.
camimom
New Member
Im sorry he died.
As Okiroo said he could have drowned.. chameleons dont drink standing water.
Can you fill this out, see if there was something in your husbandry that could have caused this. and do you have any photos of him right before he died?
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As Okiroo said he could have drowned.. chameleons dont drink standing water.
Can you fill this out, see if there was something in your husbandry that could have caused this. and do you have any photos of him right before he died?
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
Robyrango
New Member
Hello and welcome! Unless he drowned, as it's been suggested already I doubt the cause of death was because of your care, even if not perfect.. Some more experienced member can tell better than me, but 2 days of not proper care seems a real short period of time to kill your cham, even though they can be effected about that and "deteriorate" quiet quickly if there's something wrong.
Hope you'll find all the helpful informations you need here and you'll try again.
Doing research makes your life so much easier and will ensure your chameleon a happy and healthy life! Good luck
Hope you'll find all the helpful informations you need here and you'll try again.
Doing research makes your life so much easier and will ensure your chameleon a happy and healthy life! Good luck
ChameleonFan1989
New Member
I'm sorry for your loss, if you post your husbandry set up and care regieme, maybe some members here could tell how he died. But yeah water bowls serve no purpose for a chameleon, drippers, hand misters are misters like mistking are better for chams.
The fact that you have a water bowl (which you should NOT) likely means that there are other problems with your husbandry.
If he died that fast, I can almost guarantee you that he was either a) sick when you got him or b) your setup was wildly is incorrect.
2 days is very fast for him to die though...can you submit a picture of your setup?
Thanks everyone never thought I would get so many responses so fast. To answer a few questions... I had a mesh cage with cocunut substrate on the ground along with the small water bowl (only to catch excess water from dropper. Had the tropical zoo med long fluorescent along with 75 watt incandescant and exo terra vines spread throughout at many diff heighths. Had the little dropper he was accustomed to drinking out of dripping from top. Humidity was an issue but I didn't think it was severe as I read veileds are more resiliant than other chams when it comes to humidity. It dropped down pretty low more than a few times. Had two artificial plants and the cage dimension was 18 long by 28 high and 16 wide (inches). Let me know if I can help in figuring thi tragedy out by answering any other q's. Humidity did drop below thirty at least a few times.
ChameleonFan1989
New Member
I was scared that you'd mention substrate, substrate is a no no, maybe its possible it died from impaction by swallowing the substrate. Before it died, was it pooping ok or notice any constipation problems. Sometimes chams can either eat the substrate out of being curious of eat it by zapping its food.
tattooistchameleon
Member
coconut bark would be a hard digest did he often eat from the ground level of his terrrairum? thinking maybe he caught a peice of bark instead of the feeder and had digestiing issues?
tattooistchameleon
Member
im guessing substrate like chameleonfan it looks cool but the various issues with substrate is swallowing or tongue breaking issues i use old towels soft for falling purposes live plants definatly help with humidity but a humidifier is the best way to go if u had humidity issues !
ChameleonFan1989
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Please fill this out:
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
