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Psychedelic Chams
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Psychedelic Chams
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misshissingroaches
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i really honestly dont know what to say. i LOVE some parts(fall leaves)and HATE others(drainage could be covered with a thin layer of bedding)
MelissaB
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The drainage is perfect, I wouldn't put any bedding over it. That would make it hard to clean, slow the water that's trying to drain, or could accidentally be ingested. I'd add a pothos plant, because they hold beads of water for a long time, good for humidity and for drinking surfaces.
Psychedelic Chams
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Naw i use dog pads and of i cover then water wont drain lol have feeder cups so no escaped feeders and please what else do you see negative?
Psychedelic Chams
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Vicks cool mist humidifier from walmart 40 bucks and a few pittings and pvc and whalaa lol
SaintJimmy
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Awesome cage! Very pretty. One suggestion; maybe a live plant would do you good 
Deevo
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I really don't know if you're a troll or not.
I think the cage looks good but what it really needs is LOTS of live plants.
Psychedelic Chams
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I have panthers i dont believe live plants are a necessity tbh over rated as long as you kniw what kind of artficial plants work good then you should have no problem
nj011908
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just my $0.02
my suggestion coming from my breeder(extremely reputable, so trust his words he has successfully bred and raised chams for decades) to me, I had a fogger (same as a humidifier essentially), and he told me that fogger are a passageway to respiratory infections so i had it pvced to look just like yours but sadly had to take it down for the needs of my cham are more important than the pride i took in building it. this does not mean do not use one, what I am telling you is just set the humidifier in the same room and a couple of feet away from the cage and humidify it indirectly. However i like your drainage, and as far as live plants go, I have seen many with and without do to my obsessive nature, I have read a lot on this hobby even though I am brand new, i feel i have a decent hold on whats to come, and some people do live pants and some don't, I can tell you that i was running tests on my cage for 2 weeks before i even got the cham and found that live plants do indeed keep the humidity up and stable over just fake plants. The drainage system you have looks great but again with running all the tesing, I found that even though my lower third of my cage is a glass terrarium, i have no issues with too much water and i hand mist with a home depot hand pump the top mister 2x a day plus a dripper all day and the cage is never creating severe puddles that don't evaporate over a few hours or so. i feel that only so much water can drop up on a leaf before the viscosity attracts itself to other drops leading to it pouring off the leaf anyway, so for a mister to be on for minutes seems like a waste since it is going down the drain anyway...My cham got lost in the mail for 2 days ... and by doing this my way ( and i mean my very experienced breeders way ) i pulled my cham from dehydration death to a full hydrated recovery, no showers or anything like that.
my suggestion coming from my breeder(extremely reputable, so trust his words he has successfully bred and raised chams for decades) to me, I had a fogger (same as a humidifier essentially), and he told me that fogger are a passageway to respiratory infections so i had it pvced to look just like yours but sadly had to take it down for the needs of my cham are more important than the pride i took in building it. this does not mean do not use one, what I am telling you is just set the humidifier in the same room and a couple of feet away from the cage and humidify it indirectly. However i like your drainage, and as far as live plants go, I have seen many with and without do to my obsessive nature, I have read a lot on this hobby even though I am brand new, i feel i have a decent hold on whats to come, and some people do live pants and some don't, I can tell you that i was running tests on my cage for 2 weeks before i even got the cham and found that live plants do indeed keep the humidity up and stable over just fake plants. The drainage system you have looks great but again with running all the tesing, I found that even though my lower third of my cage is a glass terrarium, i have no issues with too much water and i hand mist with a home depot hand pump the top mister 2x a day plus a dripper all day and the cage is never creating severe puddles that don't evaporate over a few hours or so. i feel that only so much water can drop up on a leaf before the viscosity attracts itself to other drops leading to it pouring off the leaf anyway, so for a mister to be on for minutes seems like a waste since it is going down the drain anyway...My cham got lost in the mail for 2 days ... and by doing this my way ( and i mean my very experienced breeders way ) i pulled my cham from dehydration death to a full hydrated recovery, no showers or anything like that.
Psychedelic Chams
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I had the humidifier as you said before it was just beside the cage but the humidity wasnt staying constant should i run it through the bottom instead of the top then it wont be in direct contact with the cham?
nj011908
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its not just the humidifier that is going to keep the humidity constant, the live plants give some stability as well, keep in mind that in real world the humidity rises after rain and when there is room for the water to go meaning when the temperature and dew point spread. humidity is also relative to that as well. there is no set scale to measure humidity on, it is relative to the atmosphere and temperature. now by just running it near the cage you will raise the moisture content in the air and thus in the cage, you should measure the humidity in at least two if not three locations just like the temps, this will assure there is different areas for your cham to go to get what he/she needs when it needs it, ie more moisture for shedding.... as far as humidity goes, it seems as if there is a overwhelming desire on here to always see the humidty between 50-70% when even in their natural environment during the winter there is a drop as there is a drop in many areas of the world down to 30% or so and back up during the summer time frame. I would be more concerned with giving variety through out the enclosure and keeping a water source available like a dripper and when you mist just make sure everything is damp and beads of water everywhere and then get if time to dry out and repeat in the afternoon. i personally let my dripper just run all day while the lights are on and it drips 1 drop per 7 secondsish. not really science, just what seems to work. you have yourself a nice enclosure. dont stress out but dont keep it soaked either trying to get to exact humidity either. if i didnt answer your question just let me know i will try my best.
if i didnt answer your question just let me know i will try my best.
Psychedelic Chams
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Your good thanks on the advice ill get it dialed in all my temps are correct humidity is correct ill just make a few adjustments
nj011908
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do measure humidity by the basking spot because it will always be super low the bottom and middle of the cage will be a a good spot to measure because water vapor is heavy
Psychedelic Chams
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Yea its at 60-70% now
Psychedelic Chams
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Yea its at 60-70% now at the basking spot it fluxs from 50-70% my cage has an auto mister it mists for one minute 3 times a day
nj011908
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that pretty good my basking spot only goes that high right after a fresh misting, but toward the time right before its time to mist again the basking spot drops to about 20%, which is fine the midlle drops to about 40 and the bottom stays bewtween 60 -80
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