My Cham. seems to have something wrong with her mouth.

jasopesey

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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - Jackson Chameleon, Female, around 10-11 months old
How long has it been in your care? 8-9months
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? Besides when examing problem or giving water, only once every 3 days or longer.
Feeding - Was feeding crickets with vitamin powder about 4-7 medium size a day unless full. They were gut loaded with that cricket gel type stuff and given water in a sponge. This was all when she was healthy though, lately she won't eat crickets and was only eating meal worms. Last couple days not eating at all.
Supplements - Herp Care cricket dusting supplement
Watering - I use a dripper on the top of the cage with a cup that catches it on the bottom of the cage, I use the water in our kitchen or the water from our water bottles. This gets cleaned out and replaced each day. Misting was more frequent before but only about once a day now since she seems to get stressed and irritated by it.
Fecal Description - Seems normal brown color when ever she did eat sometimes little pieces of the incests in it.
Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? Not that I recall.
History - She always crawled around a lot before, drank a good amount of water every few days, ate all her crickets and occasional meal worms (5-7 crickets & 2-4 worms) before she got sick. She was more lively and sassy before too and seemed to like coming out of her cage and chilling on my shirt.

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Screen with sturdy plastic edges and easy clean bottom.
Lighting - We live in Hawaii temperature around a normal 79-84 during day which is when we let her sit on our patio in the sun (half of cage) for a few hours checking periodicly and leaving dripper going. Also on the colder days or clouding days when she can't be out we have a heating bulb by zoo med to keep her warm.
Temperature - Highest around 84 lowest around 75 unless using bulb.
Humidity - Not sure but we mist the cage each day.
Plants - Used fake plants with a few srings of a green dry air plant that fans out and she likes to hide under.
Placement - By our window (which sun cannot shine on since its under porch roof) level to our window hight.
Location - Hawaii closer to the mountains then the beaches so a little more elevated but not IN the mountains.

Current Problem - The problem is lately she has been loosing her appetite and barely drinking. Also the worst of the problem is that it looks like she has small yellow sore or something on her tongue which when that appeared she stopped using her tongue and the skin by her eyes sometimes off and on would swell and she would start sleeping more often. She has small scabs on her face too from rubbing he swollen parts occasionally. This all seemed to start happening in this last week or so. I'll try to upload a picture for the problem. I would love more then anything to just take her to a vet but we do not have a reptile vet anywhere out here. the only one on the whole island is 2 hours away. Also financaly I don't think we could afford it at the moment. This scares me I feel like a she is going to suffer or die on us. :(
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Wow, That looks like she got burned pretty bad... Or that is mouth rott (not likely though). Does she ever open her Eyes now? she may have been blinded by what ever burnt her.
 
I agree she looks burned. Do you have something she could have got burned on? I know you said you take her outside for sun, so do you use lights in your cage? You have not been properly gutloading your feeders very nutritionally at all. Don't know if that has anything to do with her problems but just an observation I am making. So she get 2 hours of UVB a day if the sun is out? What if it is not? What exactly are you using for supplements? Any calcium with and without d3????? She looks pretty bad I am sorry to say..
 
Well I powdered both the crickets and the worms and I also fed the crickets that jello looking cricket feed that had vitamins in it too. In their cage was the water sponge and a piece of potato, carrot, or other veggie (which they didn't eat much of though). I'm not sure what could have burned her besides the light she was getting from sun or bulb but she always had shade available when she needed it. The marks on her nose/mouth was when she was rubbing her face on her cage (same from the one by her eye), well at least thats when they started to appear. We finally got her to stop rubbing but she started growing scabs over those spots. I have a feeling the pet store we got our stuff from might not have know what he was talking about or something since these are all the things he told us to do and the bulb he suggested we buy. The bulb is supposed to be a bulb that gives the UVB but the warmth that comes out of it makes me think its a heat bulb instead. It doesn't look like any of the heat bulbs I've used before for my Iguana more like her UV bulb but its as hot as the heat bulb she used.

Is there any suggestions of things anybody thinks I can try? Or do you think without a vet this is a loss cause for my little girl? :confused:

Also as a note about her eyes. She opened her eyes fine up until today, which now that you mention it she hasn't seemed to want to open them today yet.
 
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I am going to completly theorize on this one... Moth or flying insect close to a lamp of some kind, her basking lamp maybe? she launched her tongue for it, burned her tongue VERY badly tried to retract in agony, the lamp fell on her face burning her face bad... bad sign about her eyes. without them she will certainly perish with out you hand feeding her daily. I am so sorry for you and her, I agree a vet is required at this point.
 
Thanks

Well thanks for the replies, I'll try my hardest to find a way to come up with the money to take her to the vet (which will be very hard at this point not to mention like I said 2hours away) but I DO know with complete confidence that the last post with the "theory" is wrong. There is no possible way for her to have gotten her tongue or face anywhere near the light. After looking into help from another forum also I found somebody with the same problem as mine even though they had better UVB & better gut load then I have access too. Hopefully with following their suggestion of what helped with theirs I can get her back on her feet while I save up.
 
Your chameleon looks like she has mouth rot, infection in the nose area and a severe infection in the gland in the corner of the mouth. These need to be treated/cleaned out by a vet ASAP or you are going to lose her. A culture and sensitivity test needs to be done too and she needs to be put on an antibiotic.

If you can't work something out with the vet to have this done, then I would suggest you have the vet euthanize her so she won't be suffering any more. :(
 
Your chameleon looks like she has mouth rot, infection in the nose area and a severe infection in the gland in the corner of the mouth. These need to be treated/cleaned out by a vet ASAP or you are going to lose her. A culture and sensitivity test needs to be done too and she needs to be put on an antibiotic.

If you can't work something out with the vet to have this done, then I would suggest you have the vet euthanize her so she won't be suffering any more. :(

Agreed. There are several things going on here and she's probably miserable.
 
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