Mrs. Frances Baines UV vid clip. **Must See**

Todd thank you for sharing that! Excellent video, that can give people a good look at what is going on underneath their lights. Ill be using nothing but arcadia t5 from now on. I already love the one I currently have.

EVERYONE needs to see this video! Thumbs up for sharing this with us Todd!!
 
coldbloodedAL said:
Todd thank you for sharing that! Excellent video, that can give people a good look at what is going on underneath their lights. Ill be using nothing but arcadia t5 from now on. I already love the one I currently have.

EVERYONE needs to see this video! Thumbs up for sharing this with us Todd!!
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So it looks like the Arcadia D3 T-5 22 Inch 24 Watt *6% Forest UVB* would be the correct lamp to use in place of an 18" Reptisun 5.0 , Have these been tested on panthers for an extended period of time?
 
Solid Snake said:
This is awesome!
I was actually surprised at the CFL reading, seems pitiful ;/
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Yes, but don't discount them (the CFLs) altogether...

I actually think they are good for lower level animals and I use them for my own dart frogs.

And also small enclosures!

But you are right... it was surprising!

Arcadia is doing some screw in cfls for us here in the US (110v) ...
So it will be interesting to see how those compare.

Cheers
Todd

and PS,


Frances is SOOO COOL ! I am not worthy... I am not worthy.. :p
 
Really informative video. Thanks for posting that! If those results are correct it looks like cfl's & standard florescent are sub par for the needs of a basking animal like a panther or bearded. I may have to check into going to T-5's when I change all my bulbs in June.
 
Creature13 said:
So it looks like the Arcadia D3 T-5 22 Inch 24 Watt *6% Forest UVB* would be the correct lamp to use in place of an 18" Reptisun 5.0 , Have these been tested on panthers for an extended period of time?
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Hi!
Yes, they have been available in Europe for at about 2 years.
They do need an HO (= high output) fixture.
With a good reflector to get the most bang for the buck!
Those HO T5 fixtures can be purchased at Indoor Gardening centers.... on ebay or all set up with bulb from yours truly here.

NOTE:
They do NOT work in the NO (= nominal output) t5 fixtures by Zilla, or the slim T5 undercabinet lights at home depot.

Zilla is just using the low out-put fixtures and bulbs (because it is less expensive) to capitalize on the T-5 market... BUT their T5 are almost HALF the wattage of the Arcadias.
:eek:
T-5 ONLY REFERS TO THE DIAMETER OF THE BULB-- not the wattage or how strong it is.
So don't be fooled!!

:D

http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/22t5hofihouw1.html
http://www.lightyourreptiles.com/34t5hofihouw1.html

Also, the 12% have allot of kick, they can be used IF YOU HAVE A SOLARMETER and can adjust the distance and measure the out-put to basking area.But if you do not have a Solarmeter to take measurments, you could over-UV a cham with a 12% bulb.... so go with the 6%.

Arcadia D3 Green Pkg. = 6%
Arcadia D3+ Brown Pkg = 12%

Here are some readings of fresh T5 bulbs. Click to enlarge to see readings.
Cheers,
Todd
 

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i wish we could have see readings of the cfl mounted horizontally. wondering how dramatic of a difference it would make. not that i use them...
 
ask and ye shall receive.

DekuScrub said:
i wish we could have see readings of the cfl mounted horizontally. wondering how dramatic of a difference it would make. not that i use them...
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fluxlizard said:
I was thinking the same thing.
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I can take some quick readings this afternoon of a Repti sun 5.0 and 10.0 in an exo fixture and post.

So far... it is a quiet day here at LYR... so I *should* have the time.

Now, it will not be as fancy as the UV Goddess's, but it will give us some idea.

Caveat:

If I get busy or space off and forget (after all, I am getting old, :eek: LOL) -

Someone - anyone - >> Please E-MAIL ME TO REMIND ME TO DO IT. :p
[email protected]


Cheers,
Todd

PS.
I still think CFLs have their place in smaller set-ups, or applied correctly in multiples over larger set-ups...the good ones that is.
Not the crappy CFLs.
I do promote the Repti Sun 5.0's and Exo 5.0's for certain species of Dart frogs. And the 10's for some vivs.
 
CFL Follow-up

Just some quick UV tests with 3 different brands of CFLs in a commonly used hood, as promised below.
:)

https://www.chameleonforums.com/you-want-see-some-cfl-uv-readings-78221/#post736404

Cheers,
Todd
www.lightyourreptiles.com


Venutus1 said:
I can take some quick readings this afternoon of a Repti sun 5.0 and 10.0 in an exo fixture and post.

So far... it is a quiet day here at LYR... so I *should* have the time.

Now, it will not be as fancy as the UV Goddess's, but it will give us some idea.

Caveat:

If I get busy or space off and forget (after all, I am getting old, :eek: LOL) -

Someone - anyone - >> Please E-MAIL ME TO REMIND ME TO DO IT. :p
[email protected]


Cheers,
Todd

PS.
I still think CFLs have their place in smaller set-ups, or applied correctly in multiples over larger set-ups...the good ones that is.
Not the crappy CFLs.
I do promote the Repti Sun 5.0's and Exo 5.0's for certain species of Dart frogs. And the 10's for some vivs.
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Will the 18" Arcadia light work in a regular fixture that I am using now? Do they sell a complete setup with a 18" light/fixture? Really want to switch after watching this.
 
The light that she shows us at the end of this vid. is a T5 light.

That is one type of High Out-put flo. bulb T5 fixture.... as opposed to a "NO" T8 fixture. ("NO" = Nominal Out-put )

I must point that out because the T5 Flo. HO Bulb Mrs. Baines is showing us does require an HO ("HO" =high out-put) flo. fixture. With HO ballast.

Folks that are / have been Reef tank hobbyists are probably familiar with the HO t5 lights.... because they are the gold standard for Reef Tanks and planted aquariums.

HO Bulbs made for herps started in Europe a few years back and now are spreading.(as one can see why :) )

HO Flo. fixtures are available for reef tanks and can be used with herps...
but are kind of expensive.
Not bad expensive... but more than a regular NO flo. fixture.

Many folks may have HO T5 fixtures available to buy right near where they live and not even know it.
Right at any indoor gardening center!
And those utility T5 HO fixtures they sell are usually fairly affordable.

Or they are always available online.;)

Caveat:
ONE MUST ADJUST THEIR THINKING when using HO Fixtures.
The bulbs are more potent... so the bulbs/fixtures may need to be backed off some distance.
Adjusted to the correct distance depending on the species of herp it is lighting.

FYI....Owners of more shade loving (forest) herps should make sure their animals are not getting OVER - UV-ed too!


** A good discussion of what are acceptable & proven UV levels for different species of Chams would be handy to link in to this right about now!
:D ...
Or maybe a fresh thread about that?
hmmm...
Hopefully some experienced keepers who are knowledgeable on that subject will chime in with links or new thread ... please? **

Sincerely,
Todd
 
Lamps

Hi guys,
I found this site by accident.
Frances spoke at the Freshwater Turtle Breeders Forum last week near London. She had a side show during the interval. There was much more to be seen and this link adds some more charts to the story.

I am glad we did the vid as she is such a natural presenter.

http://terrapin-info.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2084

I hope you find this helpful .

Rom
 
That was a very helpful video thanks for sharing it.

Now as far as acceptable UV levels for a Chameleon, I grew up in South Florida and during the summer you could hit an UV index as high as 12 on a sunny day with it staying around 10 most of the time. During the "winter" it would get down to around 3 or 4 on a sunny day. These readings are what the Weather Channel said and not from a reading of my own. I know Veileds are in the wild in Miami which is just a little bit more south than me so that UV levels should not change too much.

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT AN EXPERT AND DO NOT CLAIM TO BE. THIS IS JUST COMING FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE LIVING IN SOUTH FLORIDA WHERE CHAMELEONS LIVE IN THE WILD JUST FINE.

Going from this I would suspect that a UV index of around 6 should be a fine level for a chameleon at the highest spot they normally climb to. Not so high as to burn them but enough to simulate the amount of sunlight they would be getting in the wild.

If someone else has a more experience with this and I am wrong please correct me and I will adjust my post. Just seems like a lot of people are asking and I was hoping to provide some sort of answer.
 
Uv

One of the trains of research going on for turts is to establish when they actually use the sun. So whilst the midday UV reading is usually whats measured and quoted, it is being discovered that many animals do not actually show themselves at the suns peak heat.

Whilst I am a Brit I have lived in Mesa Az and kept torts there. My animals never showed themselves in the heat of the day. When readings were taken in Spain it was recorded that the actual utilised UV levels were in the order of 200uw. when they sunbathed at 10.00. Also basking is not always in the full sun but sometimes in the dappled shade.

I would really appreciate if there were readings of UV levels taken in the actual location at the time of basking for Chameleons. Frances is doing some work on this subject and such data would be very useful.
Please record Temperature, time of day, date, environment, species, sex and age.

Thanks
Rom
 
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