Montane species specialist please(question)

[chameleonkev]

Hi, ive heard a few people say crickets arnt the best feeders for montane species such as jacksons, I'm just wondering why is that? And what are good feeders to offer to in my case a xantholophus male and female, their perfectly healthy I'm just wondering so I am able to improve their diet that bit more, also can someone please send me a link to Sandrachameleon's gut loading blogs please, thank you

 

[camimom]

crickets are just fine for montanes..
i have never heard anyone say crickets are bad for them.

 

[SpartyTessy]

Crickets are good for them given that they are properly gutloaded. Two main staples for Jacksons are Crickets and dubias. Then you can also feed them superworms, mealworms, Phoenix worms, silk and hornworms, roaches, etc of appropriate size. Properly gut loaded, of course. One thing to keep in mind is never use one feeder as more than 40% of their diet. Variety and gutloading is the key.

 

[SpartyTessy]

Here is her link to gutloading

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition-gutloading.html

 

[carol5208]

crickets are just fine for montanes..
i have never heard anyone say crickets are bad for them.

yes Jess there was a long post by Xanthoman the other day(I cannot remember what thread it was on) and he stated that crickets were poor choice of feeders for Jacksons. I asked him why and he gave me a lengthy explanation, part of it having to do with phosphorus. search his name and see if you can find the thread.

 

[chameleonkev]

I use a good mixed diet, its just I think it was xanthman, I carnt be sure the other day said they arnt the best of feeders for jacksons chams. It was definitely someone who knows a hell I a lot about these chams anyway and it got me to thinking and I only want the best

 

[chameleonkev]

yes Jess there was a long post by Xanthoman the other day(I cannot remember what thread it was on) and he stated that crickets were poor choice of feeders for Jacksons. I asked him why and he gave me a lengthy explanation, part of it having to do with phosphorus. search his name and see if you can find the thread.

You remember aswell then, I could do with the man him self answering the question, did he state any better feeders for xanths?

 

[carol5208]

I use a good mixed diet, its just I think it was xanthman, I carnt be sure the other day said they arnt the best of feeders for jacksons chams. It was definitely someone who knows a hell I a lot about these chams anyway and it got me to thinking and I only want the best

I know you will get no argument from me on this subject. I would listen to someone who has been successful with them like Xanthoman You might find others who feed crickets too though...

 

[chameleonkev]

I'll keep the thread going maybe he will spot it, I'm interested to no more on the subject, I've been keeping panther quite a while with great success but these are new to me these last few months, they seem healthy but if there's a way to improve there life in captivity that bit more then I'm going to do it

 

[Elizadolots]

Here's a link to that post: https://www.chameleonforums.com/jackson-chameleon-wont-eat-his-own-87970/#post824263

 

[chameleonkev]

Thanks for that! Very interesting I almost understood what he's saying lol very intelligent guy and I'm going to read it again now to take it in

 

[carol5208]

Here's a link to that post: https://www.chameleonforums.com/jackson-chameleon-wont-eat-his-own-87970/#post824263

thank you Eliza!!!

 

[Elizadolots]

Oh, you're very welcome. I just clicked into his profile and looked at his posts...

 

[chameleonkev]

Oh, you're very welcome. I just clicked into his profile and looked at his posts...

Ready made stalker lol

 

[carol5208]

Oh, you're very welcome. I just clicked into his profile and looked at his posts...

oh, so thats how you do it!!!

 

[Cainschams]

I have fed mainly crix to all of my montane species with no apparent problems resulting in just feeding crix.

 

[Action Jackson]

Same here. They make up the main part of my feeders for my Jackson's. I do feed some roaches but Jackson's don't seem to have the jaw strength that other larger chameleons have and they some times struggle a bit with them so I don't use them often.

I have fed mainly crix to all of my montane species with no apparent problems resulting in just feeding crix.

 

[shineru]

yes Jess there was a long post by Xanthoman the other day(I cannot remember what thread it was on) and he stated that crickets were poor choice of feeders for Jacksons. I asked him why and he gave me a lengthy explanation, part of it having to do with phosphorus. search his name and see if you can find the thread.

Yu Yup that man has save my jacksons in the past, he knows his stuff.. he recomends dubbies because they are much heathy and provided more nutrions to your chameleons also they are cheep and building a collony would make it go a long way

 

[laurie]

If Xanthoman (John) said something he will have a reason. Has anyone tried sending him a pm? If nothing else works I can give him a call. All my chams have crickets as large part of their diets.

 

[Kent67]

Jackson's are one of the few species that actually relish small garden snails and slugs. For snails make sure they're small enough that the shells are thin and easy to break. Make sure they're pesticide free, yada yada, etc. and they'll thank you for it. You'll enjoy watching the chams try to eat them without shooting their tongues, too.