Mbd??

[louwillie]

For the past few days I haven't been able to feed my baby (2-3 month old) male veiled. For the past day when ever I go up to my room (where he is) I always see him on the floor of his cage. When I go to observe him he always scurries up his plant (Ficus benjamina). Could he have MBD?? Thanks

 

[PardalisGirl]

Information and pictures please......

Could you please fill out the information asked for in the link below and post a picture? We can't help you much without it:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/

 

[trd1215]

Could you please fill out the information asked for in the link below and post a picture? We can't help you much without it:

https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/

Yes definately need alot more information to help you out...

 

[louwillie]

Yes, of course.

1. 2-3 month old Male Veiled Chameleon. A Month Under My Care.
2. Handled Once A Week
3. Crickets Are Fed. 20-30 Each Night. Gut-loaded With Carrots and Oats
4. RepCal w/ D3 and Herptivite w/o D3
5. Misted 3x A Day. Drinking Has Been Observed
6. Droppings Seem Fine
7. No Other Health Problems

1. Screen Cage. 18x18x36
2. ReptiSun 5.0 18" & Basking 60 Watt. 10-12 Hours a Day
3. Temperature Unknown
4. Humidity Unknown
5. Ficus benjamina
6. Cage is Located in My Bedroom.
7. I am Located in Los Angeles, CA

I am concerned that my chameleon may have MBD. Thanks

 

[trd1215]

When he walks does he shake or does he look weak? Does he try to eat? How does he lay on the floor (flat or standing)?

 

[pssh]

Holy moly! Only feed like 10 appropriately sized crickets in the morning to anywhere up to two hours before lights out. Dust with calcium without d3 5 times a week, use calcium with d3 twice a month, and use vitamins once a month. You also need to gutload with greens like kale, collards, mustard greens, and dandelion greens. Use fruits and veggies like yams, carrots, squash, sweet peppers, apple, oranges, berries, and papaya as well.

You NEED to know the temps or you could be cooking him or maybe you are under heating him. Get a digital thermometer ASAP.

If he doesn't have MBD now, he may later or have different problems if you keep on feeding that much without plain calcium without d3.

 

[louwillie]

When he walks does he shake or does he look weak? Does he try to eat? How does he lay on the floor (flat or standing)?

He doesn't look weak. I've seen him eat before. He is standing on the floor.

 

[PardalisGirl]

Picture too..........

Ditto on all Pssh wrote. A picture of your cham and the overall setup will help too. We may be able to pick something out in a picture that is not expressed in words.......

 

[louwillie]

Holy moly! Only feed like 10 appropriately sized crickets in the morning to anywhere up to two hours before lights out. Dust with calcium without d3 5 times a week, use calcium with d3 twice a month, and use vitamins once a month. You also need to gutload with greens like kale, collards, mustard greens, and dandelion greens. Use fruits and veggies like yams, carrots, squash, sweet peppers, apple, oranges, berries, and papaya as well.

You NEED to know the temps or you could be cooking him or maybe you are under heating him. Get a digital thermometer ASAP.

If he doesn't have MBD now, he may later or have different problems if you keep on feeding that much without plain calcium without d3.

Thank you. My breeder says to feed them that many as babies. They also said I don't need a thermometer, but now that you said it I'll get one.

 

[louwillie]

Ditto on all Pssh wrote. A picture of your cham and the overall setup will help too. We may be able to pick something out in a picture that is not expressed in words.......

Here is a recent pic of my cham:

 

[louwillie]

Also what does this coloration mean?:

Thanks

 

[PardalisGirl]

Other thread......

Just saw the other thread. He looks good in those pictures. Were the pictures taken today? A picture of the setup is still something I'd like to see...........

 

[trd1215]

Holy moly! Only feed like 10 appropriately sized crickets in the morning to anywhere up to two hours before lights out. Dust with calcium without d3 5 times a week, use calcium with d3 twice a month, and use vitamins once a month. You also need to gutload with greens like kale, collards, mustard greens, and dandelion greens. Use fruits and veggies like yams, carrots, squash, sweet peppers, apple, oranges, berries, and papaya as well.

You NEED to know the temps or you could be cooking him or maybe you are under heating him. Get a digital thermometer ASAP.

If he doesn't have MBD now, he may later or have different problems if you keep on feeding that much without plain calcium without d3.

I agree 20-30 crickets a day is too many for that little guy.

 

[trd1215]

He looks pretty healthy to me...

 

[pssh]

That color could mean that he is stressed, cold, or trying to absorb more heat while basking. It kind of just depends.

 

[louwillie]

Just saw the other thread. He looks good in those pictures. Were the pictures taken today? A picture of the setup is still something I'd like to see...........

These pics were taken today.

 

[louwillie]

I agree 20-30 crickets a day is too many for that little guy.

So how many crickets? Also what is the maximum size cricket? Rainbow Mealworms may have given me the wrong size.

 

[louwillie]

That color could mean that he is stressed, cold, or trying to absorb more heat while basking. It kind of just depends.

I think he may have been stressed because as soon as I came to observe him and take this picture he was running around scared.

 

[louwillie]

Just saw the other thread. He looks good in those pictures. Were the pictures taken today? A picture of the setup is still something I'd like to see...........

Oh ya. The picture of him in his plant was taken after the one with the dark coloring.

 

[pssh]

The bug should not be wider than the space between their eyes, however it can be longer (otherwise we'd be feeding super tiny wormies ) the only exception to the rule are squishy worms but only a tiny bit wider than the space between their eyes. They squish more so their easier to swallow.

Feed 10-12 appropriately sized crickets or the quivalent of 10-12 crickets. You kind of have to do a little researching on the nutrition of other bugs to get an idea of how many other types of bugs. 10 large silkworms would not equal 10 large crickets for example. Three or so silkworms might be equivalent to 10 large crickets depending on length and what they have been eating.