MBD not doing well

Gingero

Chameleon Enthusiast
Just a heads up, most shops don’t carry the T5 UVB which means you’ll most likely need to order that online. I’d get that ordered ASAP so you can get it sooner than later as you make plans to take your cham to the vet. Also not sure what the weather is like where you are, but if you have some warm days, you can take him outside for fresh UVB until the light shows up.
 

Fchamel

Chameleon Enthusiast
I am in NC as well and it's pretty cold here. Just had snow yesterday. Probably won't until spring.
 

cham girl

Avid Member
I just posted a couple . I just don’t know how I could be doing THAT badly. My last cham was fine. She passed due to being egg bound which the vet said hapoens sometimes and other than that she was perfectly fine
PLEASE LEARN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. SOME EGG BINDING CAN BE PREVENTED WITH A FEW TWEEKS IN YOUR CARE, LISTEN FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP YOU AND YOU'RE CHAM BECAUSE IT IS A LONG AND PAINFUL DEATH.
 

jayraye2

Member
PLEASE LEARN AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. SOME EGG BINDING CAN BE PREVENTED WITH A FEW TWEEKS IN YOUR CARE, LISTEN FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP YOU AND YOU'RE CHAM BECAUSE IT IS A LONG AND PAINFUL DEATH.
My female chameleon has been gone for over a year now. It was her first batch of eggs. The vet said they were deformed and even if my chameleon was able to get them to pass, it would have been very painful and there was no promises she wouldn’t have that same issue again. My second Cham was a male. I did not want to worry about eggs after the first heartbreak
 

jayraye2

Member
Okay so weeks ago I took chameleon in for a swollen eye. They gave me antibiotic and told me to try to put eye wash in it until it cleared. She also said it’s common for reptiles with MBD to have them. So I upped my game. Got a humidifier to keep the humidity up. My lights worked for my last female as did her whole set up. It’s mesh. The lights and heat are correct. The humidity is now correct. I’m off and on with his supplements because I keep mealworms in the bowl with it. I recent went back because behind his vent seems swollen. Haven’t seen poop. And is not using back legs. He’s also gotten a bump on his head and it’s moving closer to his eye. I have spent so much to make things better. It’s still curbside pickup at the vet so I took him again. The reptile vet told me milo (male, one year) is in rough shape. He has metabolic bone disease and continued on a rant saying I was doing it all wrong and didn’t let me speak. The only varying info I haven’t been doing is making crickets and greens more of a staple for him. I feed mealworms lettuce etc and feed him mealworms mostly. The vet basically did NOTHING and his only suggestion I COULD change was adding crickets, greens, and soak him in a warm bath. If I see he is dehydrated I have ALWAYS taken him in the shower with me to help. He used to love it. Today he doesn’t seem so good. He still hasn’t used the bathroom. He’s still grumpy. And seems weaker. And I do make him eat crickets and lettuce and try to make him drink but he spit out his water basically tonight. I tried a drop of mineral oil too because I heard that can help with digestion. Just did that tonight. He won’t go to the top where it’s hot even though he physically can with his from legs. Please tell me what to do. Should I put him down? I love him very much but the closest TRUE reptile specialist is in Raleigh over three hours away! So unfair to take him so far. The heat is always (at the top) between mid 70’s to night 80’s. They’re NEW bulbs. Never make it to the six month mark. Maybe I don’t give enough calcium and vitamins?? But could I be THAT bad to make my Cham this sick? I also got him from petco if that could possibly be soemthing
UPDATE: my husband and I went all the way to Raleigh with our sweet boy. They were able to fit us in at 11. We were there until two. The vet called many times in between to be very thorough and make sure we could do what was best for Milo. She was very happy he was feisty. She decided she wanted to do bloodwork, fecal exam (thankfully he pooped for her!), and an X-ray. After hours of waiting in the parking lot she was very hopeful and was going to send milo home with us and lots of oral medication. She said his bones were a little weaker but none broken. She did mention that he had sperm plugs stuck. And even though he pooped he was blocked up and even had gas in his tummy. She was very kind and told us we truly did all we could. Sadly before she was going to let Milo come home, Milo seemed to have decided it was his time. He began to heavy breath and not want to open his eyes. The vet said that this was not the same chameleon we came in with. He took his bloodwork like a champ. His x rays and even a shot of calcium. We all were SO hopeful. But when she saw Milo like that, she did not want us to take him home because she worried he wouldn’t make it. She also said that for reptiles it takes awhile for them to truly pass on, so we decided the best course of action was to not let him suffer. Thankfully, she let us come in to say goodbye to him, and he certainly was not the same feisty boy we came in with. It broke our hearts. The vet believes more was going on with his gastrointestinal tract. She was so kind to us, and made sure we knew we did the best we could and she could see that. Which made me feel a whole lot better. I don’t know how much money and time I have spent on trying my best to change things, but I do feel it was more than just MBD because she really thinks there was a lot more going on. After talking to a few friends, who also have gotten reptiles from petsmart, they don’t seem to be as healthy or live as long so I’m wondering if that played any part. I appreciate all of your help. ALL of you. And thank you for seeing how hard I was trying. I don’t know what flipped the switch in milo, but I am truly grateful he was in the right place so we could let him go peacefully and as painlessly as possible. I highly recommend Avian and Exotics in Raleigh. I just wish we could have put the work in and gotten him better, but he seemed to have decided to let go. And for that I’m grateful for going to Raleigh. Thank you all for convincing me to go. Despite the outcome, I know I did all I could (with your help!) I can’t thank you all enough for your kindness and compassion. My sweet boy is no longer in pain. My heart is hurting seeing a dark and empty cage, but I’m so thankful he is in a better place. Bless you all.
 
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