Male Parsonii Orange Eyes

[sunday]

Hi I'm from Thailand. I've had many chameleons but this is my 1st Parsonii. I keep him in 30" deep 60" long and 40" tall enclosure with UVB 8.0 light, misting systems and sometime 75w basking spot for 1-2 hour. I'm not sure how old is he (I think that 1 year). I feed him only crickets (10-15/day). I concern about his neck. Is it swollen or not? Sometime he gasp after drinking and eating. What do you think about it? Advise please.

 

[kinyonga]

His neck may be a little swollen. His head pads are not quite full enough IMHO...which could be from not enough hydration or possibly not enough food. How long have you had him?

What supplements do you use and how often for each? What do you feed/gutload the crickets with?

 

[morpheon]

He is gorgeous!

However, i don't know much about Parsonii so i won't comment on his neck!

However, please please please do everything you can to keep him in good health! He's so worth it!!

 

[sunday]

I got him 2 weeks ago. I mist him 3 times a day. at 7.00am for 10 minutes, 13.00pm for 5 minutes and the last at 17.00pm for 10 minutes. He drink a lot. He eat crickets average 10/day. I use Rep Cal with D3 and Reptivite once a week. I gutload the crickets with cricket food (Product in thailand), apple, papaya and some green vegetables. I feed him only crickets because there not have many kinds of prey in pet store (only crickets, waxworms, mealworms and superworms) in my experienced if chameleons eat waxworms or superworms they will not interest crickets. Is this going to be nutrition problem?

 

[sunday]

He is gorgeous!

However, i don't know much about Parsonii so i won't comment on his neck!

However, please please please do everything you can to keep him in good health! He's so worth it!!

thank you morpheon. I will keep an eye on him.

 

[SpinyFranky]

I am no familiar with Parsons, so do not take this as absolute...

but with most other species of chameleons, especially when kept indoors it is important to use a calcium supplement that contains no D3.

Repcal makes a version of this ( the green tub ). And I *THINK* that it may be appropriate to start use with every feeding, while continually using the D3 version twice a month?

I in no way endorse this as fact or truth, and It may be completely wrong, but Im just trying to throw some info out there.

Im sure that some more experienced Parsons owners will chime in soon enough to correct me/explain the issue.

He sure is a good looker though! I love the HUUUGE eyes .

Was he hard to find? well locate to purchase I mean? Im not sure about the availability of chameleons in your area.

 

[sunday]

Hi SpinyFranky
It's not hard to find Parsonii here. I got him from importer but he is not WC. He is captive born.The importer success to keep and breed some Parsonii, mine one of them. And for other species as veiled or panther that have many keepers can breed them. Thank for your advise.

 

[kinyonga]

Spiny Franky said..."with most other species of chameleons, especially when kept indoors it is important to use a calcium supplement that contains no D3"...its important to use a phos.-free calcium powder whether the chameleon is kept indoors or out. If the chameleon is kept outdoors, then it should get enough UVB from the sunlight (as long as there is no plastic or glass between the chameleon and the sunlight) to produce its own D3. When kept indoors, I give chameleons phos.-free calcium/D3 dusted lightly on their insects twice a month to ensure that they get some without overdoing it....and leaving them to produce whatever else they need from the exposure to UVB from the UVB light in their cage.

Reptivite has prEformed vitamin A...so you need to be careful with it....prEformed vitamin A can build up in the system. Excess prEformed vitamin A may prevent the D3 from doing its job and push the chameleon towards MBD.

You said..."I gutload the crickets with cricket food (Product in thailand), apple, papaya and some green vegetables"...I have no idea what is in the cricket food you are using....so I can't tell you if its good or bad. What does it contain in the way of D3, vitamin A (acetate, palmitate, beta carotene, etc), phosphorous and calcium? You can feed the crickets a wide variety of greens (dandelions, kale, collards, endive, escarole, etc.) and vegetables (carrots, sweet red pepper, sweet potato, celery leaves, squash, zucchini, etc.).

You said..."I feed him only crickets because there not have many kinds of prey in pet store (only crickets, waxworms, mealworms and superworms) in my experienced if chameleons eat waxworms or superworms they will not interest crickets. Is this going to be nutrition problem?"...its better to feed a wide variety of insects IMHO. I have never had a chameleon refuse to eat crickets when fed other insects...I don't know why other people have this problem. However, crickets are a good thing to be part of the diet in that they are easy to gutload.

There are several things that can contribute to gular edema (throat swelling)...renal issues, oversupplementing, etc.

I am not an expert on Parson's although I have had several of them over the years.

 

[eisentrauti]

Hi SpinyFranky
It's not hard to find Parsonii here. I got him from importer but he is not WC. He is captive born.The importer success to keep and breed some Parsonii, mine one of them.

Have you seen eggs or hatching parsoniis from the "breeder" ? If not I would be quite unsure that I have CB parsoniis...

 

[jpm995]

Wow, those are great pics, enter the photo contest. If he's not making weezing noises i wouldn't worry to much about an infection. I would recommend a little varity in his menu, maybe a few waxworms once a week or so, he'll eat when he's hungry enough. Never had a parsons but he looks pretty healthy to me. Good luck with him.

 

[Kent67]

Have you seen eggs or hatching parsoniis from the "breeder" ? If not I would be quite unsure that I have CB parsoniis...

Really? Why? Don't most chameleon breeders keep their babies until they are a year old to sell them?

 

[eisentrauti]

Really? Why? Don't most chameleon breeders keep their babies until they are a year old to sell them?

What do you mean ?

 

[sunday]

You said..."I gutload the crickets with cricket food (Product in thailand), apple, papaya and some green vegetables"...I have no idea what is in the cricket food you are using....so I can't tell you if its good or bad. What does it contain in the way of D3, vitamin A (acetate, palmitate, beta carotene, etc), phosphorous and calcium? You can feed the crickets a wide variety of greens (dandelions, kale, collards, endive, escarole, etc.) and vegetables (carrots, sweet red pepper, sweet potato, celery leaves, squash, zucchini, etc.).

This is on product label.
Nutrition: protein >18.5%** fat >5.3%** fiber <7.1%** calcium >8.0%** phosphorus >2.2 %** moist <10% and "VITAMIN D3" (again). Now I afraid of it. What should I do? Feeding crickets or use greens and fruits.
PS. do you have a good caresheet of Parsonii? Please give me.

Have you seen eggs or hatching parsoniis from the "breeder" ? If not I would be quite unsure that I have CB parsoniis...

I have seen many incubating box at his home. After 1 year ago I'm go to purchase Uroplatus. There are more than 30 juvenile Parsonii in the room.I don't think that WC because they are the same size.

Wow, those are great pics, enter the photo contest. If he's not making weezing noises i wouldn't worry to much about an infection. I would recommend a little varity in his menu, maybe a few waxworms once a week or so, he'll eat when he's hungry enough. Never had a parsons but he looks pretty healthy to me. Good luck with him.

I don't know more about photo contest. Maybe I try.

 

[kinyonga]

You just want to be careful not to overdo vitamins D3 and A which build up in the system.

In good bone health, calcium, phos., D3 and vitamin A are important players and need to be in balance. You need to look at what supplements you use and what you feed to the insects and the lizards.

 

[Rocky]

I have seen many incubating box at his home. After 1 year ago I'm go to purchase Uroplatus. There are more than 30 juvenile Parsonii in the room.I don't think that WC because they are the same size.

You should ask him to join the forums as well We could always use the advice of a successful parsonii breeder