Lukes Cage
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ethankohl13
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yeah that was a worry but he really self regulates very well. Its been light this for a couple weeks now i watch him thru the day and hes always on the move between the skyway and the main cage ill look and hes just chillin under the uvb go look and hour later hes climbing around the sky. I also moved his uvb to where it the sky way gets some light where it connects.
ethankohl13
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Well keep a close eye on it... chams that develop MBD you can not physically see until it is too late and they have weak brittle bones without even showing the physical bowing of the limbs. Once a limb starts to bow there is no correcting it. A fall for a healthy cham that has full coverage UVB, they can come back from but a fall for a cham with MBD they will break bones.
ethankohl13
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the fact he sits and chills under his uvb for hours of the day is plenty of reason he doesnt nor will he get mbs just bc his skyway doesnt have a uvb light i apricate the worry. Like he doesnt need to be exposed 24/7 while his light are on to uvb, hes like a battery when he gets charged up on the uvb he does on about his day then when he wants more i watch him make his way back to his lights
Your response came off defensive... You posted "Share your thoughts. I took 2 ( 2x2x4) cages and made a skyway off his original cage. He loves it so much."
I am not a newbie keeper. I have 8 years of experience and many years of experience doing husbandry reviews with people in the forum. I gave you feedback for the one thing that could be a potential problem. If you do not want people to give you feedback then do not ask for them to share their thoughts on what you set up.
ethankohl13
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okay didnt mean for it to sound defensive but i read your first comment and i replied with a answer that i felt was just and that would clear up why i didnt have a uvb then you want to hit me with a Well keep a close eye on it...man i just said i watch him through the day that comment just felt as if i dont know what im doing making it sound like if i dont put a uvb light there im going to cause him health issue which is wrong. just not correct.
This will be my last post in your thread. Honestly I do not feel like you want feedback. I was not once rude to you. I was pointing out a potential issue. You are new to the hobby.... No they do not need UVB 24/7. 12 hours of lights on only. BUT if a chameleon is given the opportunity for an area they like better they can decide to spend most of their time there even if it is not actually beneficial for them. You will see this with people that will free range chameleons. UVB for their set ups have to be on point to ensure plenty of areas that they can get correct UVI levels. You will also see this with cage set ups that are right in front of the window. The cham will spend its time right up against the window trying to get to the sun and be outside of all UVB exposure. This leads to MBD developing without a keeper even realizing.
You have gone outside of the box with your design. NOTHING wrong with that. BUT the basics should be covered. UVB being the #1 basic. If you look at guidelines for providing UVB it is a fixture that runs the width of the enclosure. So if someone has a 24 inch wide cage you want a fixture that is 24 inches to provide full coverage of that zone of the cage. So that where ever the cham is when they are basking on the top level they have access. This same concept would apply to what you have created.
This is why I said "well keep a close eye on it" after it was pretty clear you were not interested in someone telling you there was a potential problem with it. NOT to make you feel like you do not know what you are doing. But to ensure you have the best experience possible and he stays as healthy as possible.
This is a public forum that many people read the threads on. If the experienced keepers do not point out potential issues then there is no way for new keepers reading your thread to understand there is a potential health risk. So if they mimic your set up and their cham develops MBD because the only place it wants to be is on the side without UVB then they are the ones to suffer.
I really hope in the future you will understand that the people in this forum that give of their time to help people see things or learn things that they do not know are here ONLY for the benefit of the people posting asking for help or feedback. There is no benefit for the experienced keepers that stay here helping other than knowing they have helped someone have a better experience with their chameleon.
Have a great rest of your week.
