Well, at best I am going to label these as just panther chameleons and interested buyers will be informed of the blood line and where the breeders came from.
There is a definate split in the rostral process which is MORE typically found on ambanja than on nosey be.
The breeders I aquired are F1s that were produced by WCs pulled in from the great island of Madagascar (nobody can state with complete certainty that the female you purchase from these storage plants is from the local that they claim).
The problem lies in the coloration and pattern of these guys. While I have seen a few ambanja that look like mine, I have also seen a few nosey be that look like mine. I can say that I have not seen many nosy be with as much red through them but hen Im sure one could make similar arguments going the other way.
I have a close relationship with the breeder I bought this stock from, and she has been very good at communicating with me.
"well I can see why people would say Nosy, but he does seem to have a prominant banding through the entire body (including legs) - I couldn't tell does he have a split in the tip of the rostral process? often Ambanja have that when Nosy's dont".
Ohh the problems with being a breeder.
Thanks everyone who has posted replies and offered input.
Like I said, at this point I will only advertise these as panthers and when interested parties inquire about local, I will inform them with the most honest answer I can "the adults were sold to me as blue barred ambanja, they came from WC stock so this is a new bloodline, here is a photo of the Sire and his clutch mate".
What else can I do