Large or small crx?

[Veild Cham Owner]

So I got my veild Cham Febuary 21 and the people at petsmart said he was about 2-3 months old. It now is July 3 and he is still on small crx. We recently switched him to an ever every other day diet but he is still on small crx. He eats about 15 every other day with some worms and fruits and veggies ( just introduced some watermelon to him and he is so happy now oml) I emailed the vet to get her opinion but she hasent responded, I think I have the wrong email lol. Let me know on what u think, Tysm!!

 

[Virgil1972]

If the crickets are not bigger then the space between his eyes then they are good.

 

[Chamifornia]

He can easily take large at that age. I would feed him everyday personally. He's still young and not full grown. A lot of people like to do every other day when fully grown

 

[Bush baby]

He needs to eat EVERYDAY. Veileds grow extremely fast, so they have a high energy/food requirement to support growth for the first year. Live feeders are more important that fruits/veggies during this time, as they require the protein from the insects. Make sure you gutload the superworms and crickets with dark green leafy vegetables, and dust with calcium; and give him ample sunlight and/or UV lighting . MBD can develop during this time as they have a high calcium requirement due to their fast growing bones.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

He needs to eat EVERYDAY. Veileds grow extremely fast, so they have a high energy/food requirement to support growth for the first year. Live feeders are more important that fruits/veggies during this time, as they require the protein from the insects. Make sure you gutload the superworms and crickets with dark green leafy vegetables, and dust with calcium; and give him ample sunlight and/or UV lighting . MBD can develop during this time as they have a high calcium requirement due to their fast growing bones.

The only reason why I feed every other day is because he refuses to eat everyday. He eats about 45 crx every week he just won't eat everyday. I have lots of sunlight he can get to. He has a 10.0 uvb light and I often let him bask in my window (with the window open so he gets the light through the screen) and I try to bring him out at least 2 times a week. Do u think uping him to biger crx will help him grow faster?

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

He can easily take large at that age. I would feed him everyday personally. He's still young and not full grown. A lot of people like to do every other day when fully grown

I am going to the petstore this week for more crx I will get the bigger ones then.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

I just read on the forums that 7month old veiled should eat 10-12 every other day (we are assuming he is 7 months old or older) he eats about 15 small crx every other day

 

[Chachi]

He can easily take large at that age. I would feed him everyday personally. He's still young and not full grown. A lot of people like to do every other day when fully grown

Me too. I feed my little as often and as much as they want. A cham that size, i would be feeding every day.

 

[Bush baby]

The only reason why I feed every other day is because he refuses to eat everyday. He eats about 45 crx every week he just won't eat everyday. I have lots of sunlight he can get to. He has a 10.0 uvb light and I often let him bask in my window (with the window open so he gets the light through the screen) and I try to bring him out at least 2 times a week. Do u think uping him to biger crx will help him grow faster?

How big are the small crix? If they're bite sized then i'd say get bigger crix. Judging by the pics, he looks like he is capabe of eating adult sized crix anyway, he'll just eat less because they'll be bigger. Don't know why he isn't growing; maybe he's not meeting the caloric requiments for growth because he's being filled up on veggies and fruit? They really need insects for the bulk of their diet at this age because they're growing fast. Veggies is okay sometimes, but the calories just aren't there. I prefer to feed them fruits/veggies once they reach adulthod personally. Just make sure you're gut loading and dusting everything with D3 free calcium. He should start to increase his size quickly in the next few months if you stick to this feeding schedule.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

How big are the small crix? If they're bite sized then i'd say get bigger crix. Judging by the pics, he looks like he is capabe of eating adult sized crix anyway, he'll just eat less because they'll be bigger. Don't know why he isn't growing; maybe he's not meeting the caloric requiments for growth because he's being filled up on veggies and fruit? They really need insects for the bulk of their diet at this age because they're growing fast. Veggies is okay sometimes, but the calories just aren't there. I prefer to feed them fruits/veggies once they reach adulthod personally. Just make sure you're gut loading and dusting everything with D3 free calcium. He should start to increase his size quickly in the next few months if you stick to this feeding schedule.

The calcium I dust with has d3in it, do u think that could be part of the problem? He hasent shed in 2 months and it is starting to scare me even though he has grown. My vet says to give him kale everyday bc it is super nutritious for them. I honestly just don't know anymore. I have gotten so much info from this site and now I feel like I am doing everything wrong. The next time I go to the petstore I will get large crx, the small crx I feed him are about 5 centimeters long.

 

[cyberlocc]

The calcium I dust with has d3in it, do u think that could be part of the problem? He hasent shed in 2 months and it is starting to scare me even though he has grown. My vet says to give him kale everyday bc it is super nutritious for them. I honestly just don't know anymore. I have gotten so much info from this site and now I feel like I am doing everything wrong. The next time I go to the petstore I will get large crx, the small crx I feed him are about 5 centimeters long.

Just try both large and small. See what he will eat, he will eat it or he wont.

Feed him everyday, as much as he wants everyday. If he doesn't want to eat one day, no problem still offer it. He needs to eat everyday (or whenever he is hungry and as much as he wants) until he is full grown he is no where near full grown.

Do not give Kale everyday, It is high in Oxalic acid.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/entry/kale.657/

Read this https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/entry/feeder-nutrition-amp-gutloading.75/

Is your vet a Chameleon Vet or a Bearded Dragon vet that knows nothing about chameleons so just assumes? I am not trying to be mean by this, you would be surprised. We had a guy on here whos vet told him to stop feeding live food! And that his cham should live off of dried gecko diet.

 

[Chachi]

The calcium I dust with has d3in it, do u think that could be part of the problem? He hasent shed in 2 months and it is starting to scare me even though he has grown. My vet says to give him kale everyday bc it is super nutritious for them. I honestly just don't know anymore. I have gotten so much info from this site and now I feel like I am doing everything wrong. The next time I go to the petstore I will get large crx, the small crx I feed him are about 5 centimeters long.

Ok

The calcium I dust with has d3in it, do u think that could be part of the problem? He hasent shed in 2 months and it is starting to scare me even though he has grown. My vet says to give him kale everyday bc it is super nutritious for them. I honestly just don't know anymore. I have gotten so much info from this site and now I feel like I am doing everything wrong. The next time I go to the petstore I will get large crx, the small crx I feed him are about 5 centimeters long.

Well, my advice is to change what you are doing that isnt exactly what experienced cham owners are doing. After you make all the necessary changes do your best to stop worrying. If you are doing everything right and your cham is thriving then, he is going to be a small one and you love him just the same.They are all different, just like us.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

Just try both large and small. See what he will eat, he will eat it or he wont.

Feed him everyday, as much as he wants everyday. If he doesn't want to eat one day, no problem still offer it. He needs to eat everyday (or whenever he is hungry and as much as he wants) until he is full grown he is no where near full grown.

Do not give Kale everyday, It is high in Oxalic acid.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/entry/kale.657/

Read this https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/entry/feeder-nutrition-amp-gutloading.75/

Is your vet a Chameleon Vet or a Bearded Dragon vet that knows nothing about chameleons so just assumes? I am not trying to be mean by this, you would be surprised. We had a guy on here whos vet told him to stop feeding live food! And that his cham should live off of dried gecko diet.

My vet is a exotics vet. She is the only one that is at lest 45 mins away. She is wicked good and I trust her a lot.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

Ok

Well, my advice is to change what you are doing that isnt exactly what experienced cham owners are doing. After you make all the necessary changes do your best to stop worrying. If you are doing everything right and your cham is thriving then, he is going to be a small one and you love him just the same.They are all different, just like us.

What can I do to make him bigger, and have things what I should be doing. I trust my vet a lot but I also trust you guys as pet owners. Awhile back I put up a thread in here about why he wasn't eatting. People told me he had MBD. We went to the vet because I was quite confused by the responses and he has no signs of MBD at all. She said since we r assuming he is 7 months old we can switch to everyother day eatting since he doesn't seem to want to eat every day. I will try switching back to everyday eatting and see how he does.

 

[Chachi]

I looked at the pictures you have posted here, now, and i see absolutely no apparent evidence of mbd. Absolutely none. He looks a little thin, but males are leaner and not as round as females.
You know, he looks the picture of health to me. I, prsonally, like my boys to have a muscular look about their back legs and tails. I think that thicker, bigger look comes w age.
I am not as experienced as some of the people on here and i am awed by their accumulation of knowledge, but i know what i know, so i will pass it on to you.
If i offer food too much, they become picky.
I have noticed that each one has a preference for when they like to eat.
So, if it were me, i would definitely do that every other week calcium with d and then on the opposite weeks I would give him vitamins. I would put some calcium without d in a shaker and sprinkle calcium without d every time i fed him. I only put it on the first three or four crickets and after that I don't give him any more that day.
I also would feed him his meat first and after he has eaten the amount that is customary (whatever that is) I would offer favorites. That way he is encouraged to eat more.
Im assuming, lights, temps, habitat and air quality are correct.If you dont know, let me know and Ill tell you mine.
I do a lot of individual adjustments. Different chams like different stuff so I tailor my husbandry to fit my guy.
Again i dont know nearly what these other guys know but i have cared for distressed animals and brought them around to good several times

 

[Chachi]

I looked at the pictures you have posted here, now, and i see absolutely no apparent evidence of mbd. Absolutely none. He looks a little thin, but males are leaner and not as round as females.
You know, he looks the picture of health to me. I, prsonally, like my boys to have a muscular look about their back legs and tails. I think that thicker, bigger look comes w age.
I am not as experienced as some of the people on here and i am awed by their accumulation of knowledge, but i know what i know, so i will pass it on to you.
If i offer food too much, they become picky.
I have noticed that each one has a preference for when they like to eat.
So, if it were me, i would definitely do that every other week calcium with d and then on the opposite weeks I would give him vitamins. I would put some calcium without d in a shaker and sprinkle calcium without d every time i fed him. I only put it on the first three or four crickets and after that I don't give him any more that day.
I also would feed him his meat first and after he has eaten the amount that is customary (whatever that is) I would offer favorites. That way he is encouraged to eat more.
Im assuming, lights, temps, habitat and air quality are correct.If you dont know, let me know and Ill tell you mine.
I do a lot of individual adjustments. Different chams like different stuff so I tailor my husbandry to fit my guy.
Again i dont know nearly what these other guys know but i have cared for distressed animals and brought them around to good several times

Omg, i got off track a little. There is so much to know about caring for chameleons. Butt back to the feeding thing I would not do a routine thing w him. I would try him in the am. Then, later in the day, the next day. Dont let him be sure when you will feed him. That way he eats everytime cause he has had to wait before, you know what i mean

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

I looked at the pictures you have posted here, now, and i see absolutely no apparent evidence of mbd. Absolutely none. He looks a little thin, but males are leaner and not as round as females.
You know, he looks the picture of health to me. I, prsonally, like my boys to have a muscular look about their back legs and tails. I think that thicker, bigger look comes w age.
I am not as experienced as some of the people on here and i am awed by their accumulation of knowledge, but i know what i know, so i will pass it on to you.
If i offer food too much, they become picky.
I have noticed that each one has a preference for when they like to eat.
So, if it were me, i would definitely do that every other week calcium with d and then on the opposite weeks I would give him vitamins. I would put some calcium without d in a shaker and sprinkle calcium without d every time i fed him. I only put it on the first three or four crickets and after that I don't give him any more that day.
I also would feed him his meat first and after he has eaten the amount that is customary (whatever that is) I would offer favorites. That way he is encouraged to eat more.
Im assuming, lights, temps, habitat and air quality are correct.If you dont know, let me know and Ill tell you mine.
I do a lot of individual adjustments. Different chams like different stuff so I tailor my husbandry to fit my guy.
Again i dont know nearly what these other guys know but i have cared for distressed animals and brought them around to good several times

Ik, I have no idea what those people were talking about with the MBD it was absolutely stupid of them to say that to me. His temps are perfect (85 for basking and as the bottom of the cage is about 70) humidity is always in the 70's. He is in a 4ftx2ftx2ft screen cage. I just offered a super worm and it took him about 2 mins for me to coax him into eatting it. Today is one of the days I wouldn't feed him. I feed him every Sunday Monday Wednesday and Friday. He ate 2 supers and would refuse to eat anything else. I put in 4 crx into his bucket and I will check later to see if he eats them. I am thinking about doing something a little like this. Feed him crx on Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Friday and everyother day feed him worms. Does that seem good? (I just watched him eat all 4 crx out is him flower pot).

 

[Bush baby]

The calcium I dust with has d3in it, do u think that could be part of the problem? He hasent shed in 2 months and it is starting to scare me even though he has grown. My vet says to give him kale everyday bc it is super nutritious for them. I honestly just don't know anymore. I have gotten so much info from this site and now I feel like I am doing everything wrong. The next time I go to the petstore I will get large crx, the small crx I feed him are about 5 centimeters long.

I didn't read through the other posts, so forgve me if this has been addressed, but are you dusting his food with the Calcium with D3 in it at every feeding? If so, this is dangerous as synthetic D3 (as is in the powder) will build up and become toxic in your chams system. If you're giving him natural sunlight and/or exposure to a UV light, his body will make it's own D3..but will only make what it needs. Giving him synthetic D3 more than once or twice month will eventually poison him, as it will remain in his system and become toxic. It's not water soluable, so his body cannot pass it out in his waste. Plain calcium however is water soluable, so your cham cannot over-dose on plain calcium, so you need to buy some plain calcium in which you can dust his feeders with at every feeding.

Since you mentioned before that he gets UV light both via sunlight and the bulb, i would completely stop the calcium with D3 for a few months to allow his system to use up the D3 that probably built up in his system.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

I didn't read through the other posts, so forgve me if this has been addressed, but are you dusting his food with the Calcium with D3 in it at every feeding? If so, this is dangerous as synthetic D3 (as is in the powder) will build up and become toxic in your chams system. If you're giving him natural sunlight and/or exposure to a UV light, his body will make it's own D3..but will only make what it needs. Giving him synthetic D3 more than once or twice month will eventually poison him, as it will remain in his system and become toxic. It's not water soluable, so his body cannot pass it out in his waste. Plain calcium however is water soluable, so your cham cannot over-dose on plain calcium, so you need to buy some plain calcium in which you can dust his feeders with at every feeding.

Since you mentioned before that he gets UV light both via sunlight and the bulb, i would completely stop the calcium with D3 for a few months to allow his system to use up the D3 that probably built up in his system.

I dust with the d3 2 times a week however I am going to stop using it that much. I am trying to find some regular calcium online and I will buy it as soon as I can find one.

 

[Veild Cham Owner]

I didn't read through the other posts, so forgve me if this has been addressed, but are you dusting his food with the Calcium with D3 in it at every feeding? If so, this is dangerous as synthetic D3 (as is in the powder) will build up and become toxic in your chams system. If you're giving him natural sunlight and/or exposure to a UV light, his body will make it's own D3..but will only make what it needs. Giving him synthetic D3 more than once or twice month will eventually poison him, as it will remain in his system and become toxic. It's not water soluable, so his body cannot pass it out in his waste. Plain calcium however is water soluable, so your cham cannot over-dose on plain calcium, so you need to buy some plain calcium in which you can dust his feeders with at every feeding.

Since you mentioned before that he gets UV light both via sunlight and the bulb, i would completely stop the calcium with D3 for a few months to allow his system to use up the D3 that probably built up in his system.

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