Kinyongia Boehmei - Breeding Project Log

[Sticktongue]

Yes brother glad to hear you're going for it. You're braver than me doing this with a full house. We have 3 box turtles which is as easy as it gets and i wouldn't dare do more.

Brooooo! I have been looking for you online on FB and everywhere for years!!! Hope you’re doing well, miss talking with you my friend. Drop me a DM with your number if you feel inclined, would love to catch up.

Funny you drop by, as fun as I’m having.. I so wish I would have followed through 15-17 years ago, whatever it’s been with our plans. I think about those days a lot. Everytime I see this little female I think about “Lil H”, the female Multitubularculata I had from you.

Idk if brave or stupid is the right word I only plan to incubate 4-6 eggs. We shall see how this first round goes and go from there.

So glad to see your name. You still get talked about on the Chameleon Academy platform with the Multitubularculata breeding project.

 

[javadi]

Love to see this, congratulations! What a wonderful little species. Well done!

 

[Sticktongue]

Love to see this, congratulations! What a wonderful little species. Well done!

Thanks! Appreciate your help in this as well!

 

[Sticktongue]

Update. September 28th when I paired them, she scale would bounce back and forth at 7 and 8 grams, but ultimately landed on 7 grams. I weighed her just now before feeding and she is at 9 grams. So about a 12% weight gain in 4 weeks.

Today marks 28 days since their first pairing. I am expecting another 2 weeks at least until eggs.

I am starting to prepare the laying bin and will likely put it in next weekend.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I think hatching any species of Kinyongia would be great!!

Someone breeding Kinyongia species in North America has not happened in such a long time, Kinyongia breeders are due for hatching a clutch of Kinyongia eggs.

Good luck with the producing eggs!

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[snitz427]

Great news! Fingers crossed for you! Keep me in mind when it is time to find new homes for the babies! I’ve given up on grandbabies but would love to continue keeping KB. Such a fun species!

I’ll have to go back and double check, but I think my eggs hatched at nearly 7 months on the dot.

 

[Sticktongue]

Great news! Fingers crossed for you! Keep me in mind when it is time to find new homes for the babies! I’ve given up on grandbabies but would love to continue keeping KB. Such a fun species!

I’ll have to go back and double check, but I think my eggs hatched at nearly 7 months on the dot.

Thank you! Can you see what times you incubated at, and how long gestation was? I’m at about 38 days, I’m expecting 45-55 for gestation, and 5-7 months for hatching.

Yes I will keep ya in mind! At this point, theirs enough interest, including you that probably all of them are spoken for which is exciting

 

[snitz427]

Thank you! Can you see what times you incubated at, and how long gestation was? I’m at about 38 days, I’m expecting 45-55 for gestation, and 5-7 months for hatching.

Yes I will keep ya in mind! At this point, theirs enough interest, including you that probably all of them are spoken for which is exciting

my female was gravid when I acquired her (unbeknownst to me). She laid her eggs within a month of her arrival. I kept the eggs in a small container with a few small holes for ventilation on moist vermiculite. Didn’t need to add water. Kept them in a dark, room temp closet and they hatched appx 7 months later.

Interestingly, months later, I found 2 tiny babies in mom’s enclosure. Initially I thought she may have retained sperm, but now I wonder if she laid her eggs in multiple places and I missed those eggs. Her temps dropped by 10-15 degrees at night and were slightly cooler during the day. So I can’t help but wonder if they were laid at the same time but hatched a significant amount of time late due to the colder temps!

 

[Sticktongue]

54 days in at this point. She weighs is at 10 grams now. I feel she looks gravid, but unfortunately I leave tomorrow till next Sunday for Thanksgiving… I guess we will see if she lays while I’m gone. Less than thrilled about that but what do ya do…

I gotta get a nice camera to help not wash out these colors!

 

[PetNcs]

Few things here. The parameters that I’m starting with are as follows.

Lights on at 6:30 AM. This will turn the jungledawn and UVB on.. for now. I plan to get some smart dimmers soon and adjust this. Lights turn off at 6:30 PM

When lights come on, it looks like this picture. 85-90% humidity.

Wind fans (80MM fans) turn on at 8 AM and off at 6 PM. This is to keep air circulation and fresh air moving.

Basking comes on from 9-10 and hits 82 degrees. Comes on again at 2-3.

Misting system mists for 1 minute at 5PM. This gives them time to drink from the mist if needed, raise humidity, drop the temps and get everything wet for the fogger.

Fog comes on at 8PM-midnight, then 3 AM-6:30AM. This right now gets. I humidity around 85-90%


Daytime, ambient temps are hovering around 70 all day.

Nighttime, if I don’t open a window it gets to 59-60. If I crack a window, it gets down to 50-55 degrees depending how much I crack it.

Ambient humidity slowly drops all day of course form 90% down to around 30 %. I need to make an adjustment to the wind fans or something. I’d like to be around 45-50 during the day at the lowest. I’ll play around this weekend to dial that in.

UVB, max exposure is 6.2 on one branch, while the basking branches hover between 2 and 3.

Anyhow. This is how I plan to start. I’ll make adjustments as I go.

Long term plan once I get everything stabilized for several months, is to get dimmers to simulate different weather patterns, heat, etc. I’m going to do dry and wet seasons as well. Keeps things interesting

I’ll post pics next week when they arrive. Good bad and the ugly will be documented.
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i guess this could work
As I visited Wundanyi many times and introduced this soecies tomscience, I can give yiu some info in case you need it

I would not go so hogh in basking and make it shorter, also the second period I would postpone to 17. Thisnis when they bask in the wild as a rule but very shortly. i would also skip the afternoon misting, itnis dangerous, they are prone to RI. better make one in the early morning at low temps.

 

[Sticktongue]

i guess this could work
As I visited Wundanyi many times and introduced this soecies tomscience, I can give yiu some info in case you need it

I would not go so hogh in basking and make it shorter, also the second period I would postpone to 17. Thisnis when they bask in the wild as a rule but very shortly. i would also skip the afternoon misting, itnis dangerous, they are prone to RI. better make one in the early morning at low temps.

Hey Petr, this is Carson, we’ve been messaging a bit of Facebook about them

I appreciate the comments. I actually started with them with shorter bask times and also tried just 1 session per day, but you could tell they wanted and needed more. They would go to the basking spot looking for more heat time. I also have observed that they utilize the entirety of the basking time, and move off only when the lights turn off. 8 months in, no RI issues, as I have air constantly circulating and never stagnant air, nor fogging or misting in higher heat. I’ll try making an adjustment as suggested above and see if I notice any differences. Thanks!

 

[Sticktongue]

Next step!!!
65 days after the first pairing, this last Monday, I noticed a little bit of digging in her main tree pot. Tuesday, she dug more. Wednesday there was a couple decent sized holes… but still no eggs. Thursday, more digging and NO EGGs. Friday more digging and NO EGGs, luckily, I’ve had 2 very experienced people that have been gracious enough through the entire process of pairing and on stand by this whole week helping keep my nerves down…never would of guessed it would take this long to lay. finally today, day 5 of real digging and I could tell it was the day. A storm rolled in and one of them (idk if they want their names shared so I’m not) called that today looked good with the biometric change that was going to take place. She dug from about 8 AM, and was done covering them about 3 PM.

Now we wait 4-6 months to hatch..

 

[Action Jackson]

I’m happy for you Carson! Thanks for sharing the ride with me.

 

[Sticktongue]

I’m happy for you Carson! Thanks for sharing the ride with me.

Absolutely! Glad I was able to lean on ya!!

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Carson

Woww! A Kinyongia clutch after all this time finally. Congratulations!

Now good luck with the clutch incubation.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

 

[Sticktongue]

Carson

Woww! A Kinyongia clutch after all this time finally. Congratulations!

Now good luck with the clutch incubation.

Best Regards
Jeremy A. Rich

Thanks Jeremy! Been waiting on this day for about.. 15 years since I had my first Kinyongia Multitubularculata. Very excited to finally be to this point and giving it a run. Especially when theirs virtually no Kinyongia being bred in the US.

I’ll be back on the thread in a few weeks for an egg update, and an update on my baby cage wrack plan.

 

[snitz427]

Thanks Jeremy! Been waiting on this day for about.. 15 years since I had my first Kinyongia Multitubularculata. Very excited to finally be to this point and giving it a run. Especially when theirs virtually no Kinyongia being bred in the US.

I’ll be back on the thread in a few weeks for an egg update, and an update on my baby cage wrack plan.

Congrats, and well done mama!