is it ok if he takes naps durring the day and what do these spots mean?

[DanSB]

Once again, it is NOT a Senegal Chameleon! It is a Graceful Chameleon. Please don't confuse the issue and the owner.

So this seems to be quite simple: Occipital Lobes or no Occipital Lobes. In other posts it is clear this chameleon has occipital lobes which clearly means it is not a Senegal. I was completely wrong and feel a little dumb, a foot in mouth mistake I hopefully will not make again.

One the best experts on chameleons, Chris Anderson (whom we are fortunate to have as a board member) has identified it as a Graceful. Most of us think that means the question has been answered and doesn't need to be debated any more.

https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-kind-chameleon-do-you-think-i-have-78372/index2.html#post737861

Thank you for pointing the way to determine. I really did search and this is the first time I have seen this information. It is a matter of knowing what key words to use which I didn't even know where to begin.

 

[Trace]

So this seems to be quite simple: Occipital Lobes or no Occipital Lobes. In other posts it is clear this chameleon has occipital lobes which clearly means it is not a Senegal. I was completely wrong and feel a little dumb, a foot in mouth mistake I hopefully will not make again.

Dan, my apologies if I came across as rude to you; it was not my intent. There were several threads recently were newly acquired animals were mistakenly identified (some concerning this original poster and some not) by well meaning members. My concern when this happens is that wrong information is given concerning proper husbandry and acclimation and sometimes that can be very detrimental to the animal and new owner. I get a little touchy when this happens.

But yes you are correct. The absence of the lobes indicates a Senegal Chameleon. That horizontal white stripe and dorsal crest tends to be (but not always!) smaller on the Senegals as well. Both the Graceful and Flapneck Chameleons have the occipital lobes but they are usually (but not always!) bigger on the latter.

Cheers,
Trace

 

[DanSB]

Dan, my apologies if I came across as rude to you; it was not my intent. There were several threads recently were newly acquired animals were mistakenly identified (some concerning this original poster and some not) by well meaning members. My concern when this happens is that wrong information is given concerning proper husbandry and acclimation and sometimes that can be very detrimental to the animal and new owner. I get a little touchy when this happens.

But yes you are correct. The absence of the lobes indicates a Senegal Chameleon. That horizontal white stripe and dorsal crest tends to be (but not always!) smaller on the Senegals as well. Both the Graceful and Flapneck Chameleons have the occipital lobes but they are usually (but not always!) bigger on the latter.

Cheers,
Trace

No apologies necessary I'm the one who made the false statement. The truth is I have had a very hard time finding any reliable information on identification and care for any of these three (Graceful, Senegal, and Flap neck) other than "Care for like a Veiled" and the very first thing I was able to find on identification of the 3 was from above!

If you don't own a Veiled or a Panther it takes quite a bit of work to figure out how to care for them, which is sad because I think the Gracefuls and Senegals are beautiful animals, are severely under appreciated, and I want to know everything I can about these species.