I'm Dreading Moving The Veiled :(

[ChameleonFan1989]

As by the title I'm planning on getting my male veiled a mesh cage very soon, the wooden is becoming a pain in the backside for me anyway

He's very territorial now and it was a battle earlier to get him out to help with a stuck shed and nearly got bit so its the move is NOT going to be fun

 

[gerhartrx]

As by the title I'm planning on getting my male veiled a mesh cage very soon, the wooden is becoming a pain in the backside for me anyway

He's very territorial now and it was a battle earlier to get him out to help with a stuck shed and nearly got bit so its the move is NOT going to be fun

Try putting on some gloves to move him or you can use two plastic containers to try and catch him. Those are the two methods that some have used to move an agressive veiled. Good luck!

 

[ChameleonFan1989]

I'll try that he was such a grumpy little man this afternoon LOL

 

[allencg101]

if you have a fake plant like i do open his door and place it in front of his enclosure and let him walk out on his own. if you do that and relate it to free ranging for him he will learn that when he also sees you its not just for food but freedom time too.

 

[sdheli420]

have you tried tricking him with food..get a favorite snack..give him one..then put a hand out and hold the snack further away..usually you can trick the brave, aggresive ones to climb out with food since they dont fear you,,they are just angered by you...used to work with me and my huge male oracle..

 

[ChameleonFan1989]

have you tried tricking him with food..get a favorite snack..give him one..then put a hand out and hold the snack further away..usually you can trick the brave, aggresive ones to climb out with food since they dont fear you,,they are just angered by you...used to work with me and my huge male oracle..

Tried that before, he'll look at it and then walk away

 

[cooper9934]

gloves

I used a pair of gloves to handle my aggressive veiled last weekend. It worked really well. I took him outside on my hand for a bit in the sun and he was changing colors a lot. It was really cool but after about 5 min I put him back.

He did try to bite my hand when I picked him up with the gloves and it was nice not to have to worry about it. Each time i get him on my hand he does fine.

 

[sdheli420]

Tried that before, he'll look at it and then walk away

are you trying to pick him up from his belly like underneath him or from above him??

 

[justjumpit621]

why don't you just put a stick in front of him and use your other hand to gently coax him forward? He should move forward with your hand advancing from the backside and walk onto the stick. I have done this before when leo was a little shithead most of the time though it is a fake out. You just have to know if he really will bite or not.

 

[sdheli420]

why don't you just put a stick in front of him and use your other hand to gently coax him forward? He should move forward with your hand advancing from the backside and walk onto the stick. I have done this before when leo was a little shithead most of the time though it is a fake out. You just have to know if he really will bite or not.

yeah usually with the agro ones ive had, they hiss and lunge, but if you are assertive and keep moving towards them slowly gently picking them up, they calm down once out of the cage (their territory)

 

[ChameleonFan1989]

He hasn't bit me YET, its more hissy and lunging to me and I end up backing off and scared of stressing him out to much

 

[sdheli420]

He hasn't bit me YET, its more hissy and lunging to me and I end up backing off and scared of stressing him out to much

thats whats causeing it..dont back off or act scared move slowly with authority, but be gentle..once you get him out im sure he will calm down..my old male did that same back n forth game (tilli free ranged him in the living room, then he'd walk down and visit "us" on the couch and ied give him a few wax worm treats)

 

[VeiledChams]

Get a stick, and have him walk on it, then take him out. Or leave a plant outside and he'll eventually wander on it. It isn't rocket science

 

[ChameleonFan1989]

Get a stick, and have him walk on it, then take him out. Or leave a plant outside and he'll eventually wander on it. It isn't rocket science

Hey! I was just asking, didn't ask for sarcasm or rudeness! I'm not rude to other members and haven't been a cham owner for that long.

 

[VeiledChams]

Hey! I was just asking, didn't ask for sarcasm or rudeness! I'm not rude to other members and haven't been a cham owner for that long.

Not being rude..just sarcasm. I have a veiled who is extremely angry. (he sometimes goes after himself, go figure). What I told you is what I do when I need to get him out.

 

[EvilLost]

As by the title I'm planning on getting my male veiled a mesh cage very soon, the wooden is becoming a pain in the backside for me anyway

He's very territorial now and it was a battle earlier to get him out to help with a stuck shed and nearly got bit so its the move is NOT going to be fun

just let him bite you and ignore it, he'll get over it .....I would normally not say that, but if all you are doing is moving him for a few seconds, I don't think it will be much of an issue.

I used to be all careful too, esp when dealing with my snakes, but the little buggers can't really hurt you anyway; I've found its not worth the time effort to avoid it, just let them bite and ignore it. In most cases it wont even break skin



EDIT: As someone else mentioned, you have TRAINED him to be like that. Everytime you approach him, he puffs up being scared of you (he thinks you are some giant thing that will hurt him), and then when he puffs you (the giant creature) back off. Next time he sees you, he repeats this behavior because his objective is to get you away from him.

On the other hand, when he does this if you continue to slowly approach and even pick him up, he will *EVENTUALLY* be conditioned the other way. Your situation is likely made worse due to the conditioning that he has already undergone, but it is by no means irreversible. Simple reach in, let him puff up, and then GENTLY let him climb onto your fingers (I would put my hands slowly directly in front of him and maybe, if he allows, slowly move them under his chin). At that point he will probably climb onto your finger....but like I said since he has been negatively conditioned this might take several attempts and it is likely he will actually bite when you try to put your finger in front of him. If you are genuinely worried about the bite, just wear any old pair of gloves and you won't feel a thing...(honestly you won't really feel much without the glove anyway).

Whatever you do: DO NOT PICK HIM UP BY FORCE // FROM ABOVE as if you were "grabbing" an object. They HATE that and it will put an already defensive cham into a worse mental situation. You have to bring your hand in front of him and let HIM climb onto YOU. If you do this several times, he will eventually come to understand that although you are a "giant creature" you mean him no harm

 

[justjumpit621]

Calais just bit me, it broke skin =P but if your wearing gloves it only hurts a little from the force of the bite.

 

[VeiledChams]

If you freak out when they bite and move your hand, it'll cut you. If you keep still, they may puncture the skin but it wont be as bad. My adult veiled has bit me before, twice. And it didn't even break the skin. I was surprised, but then laughed about it

 

[Banders675]

it won't hurt

just let him bite you and ignore it, he'll get over it .....I would normally not say that, but if all you are doing is moving him for a few seconds, I don't think it will be much of an issue.

I used to be all careful too, esp when dealing with my snakes, but the little buggers can't really hurt you anyway; I've found its not worth the time effort to avoid it, just let them bite and ignore it. In most cases it wont even break skin



EDIT: As someone else mentioned, you have TRAINED him to be like that. Everytime you approach him, he puffs up being scared of you (he thinks you are some giant thing that will hurt him), and then when he puffs you (the giant creature) back off. Next time he sees you, he repeats this behavior because his objective is to get you away from him.

On the other hand, when he does this if you continue to slowly approach and even pick him up, he will *EVENTUALLY* be conditioned the other way. Your situation is likely made worse due to the conditioning that he has already undergone, but it is by no means irreversible. Simple reach in, let him puff up, and then GENTLY let him climb onto your fingers (I would put my hands slowly directly in front of him and maybe, if he allows, slowly move them under his chin). At that point he will probably climb onto your finger....but like I said since he has been negatively conditioned this might take several attempts and it is likely he will actually bite when you try to put your finger in front of him. If you are genuinely worried about the bite, just wear any old pair of gloves and you won't feel a thing...(honestly you won't really feel much without the glove anyway).

Whatever you do: DO NOT PICK HIM UP BY FORCE // FROM ABOVE as if you were "grabbing" an object. They HATE that and it will put an already defensive cham into a worse mental situation. You have to bring your hand in front of him and let HIM climb onto YOU. If you do this several times, he will eventually come to understand that although you are a "giant creature" you mean him no harm

I'd love to see you just let my veiled bite you. he bit me with a leather glove on and I felt it. I had to remove my hand from the glove cause he had lock jaw, not to mention while he was biting he twisted his head around to make sure he really did damage. He was about 20 inches and strong I held a wild caught a lot bigger then him and he did not have half the strength mine did.

I feel for this owner my veiled would go out of his way to bite me, he was a free range and he waited till I would get close and bam he'd lunge. we had intense power struggles I grabbed him and he would hold on to me with 2 feet waiting till his head was free so he could bite the s&^% outta me. I got a yard stick to use to get him down from the top of the chains that held the lights up and to get him out of his tree once out he would chill out after a while sometimes, however when i went to put him back he would still try and get a bite in. I gave him away cause he bit my girlfriend she pulled away before he locked on but the scraps he left on her finger nail was enough for her to not want to deal with him. I work and go to school full time so I need someone to help with care so I gave him up. I got as an adult and he was in bad shape when I got him once I made him healthy he was angry. Now i have a baby panther who I work with everyday to insure he does not end up like my pitbull (I mean veiled) side note I have had veileds before that were really nice and wanted to come out and hang out with me but rango he wanted nothing to do with me.