ID These Chameleons

[JRchameleons]

These are the pictures I received after responding to a Craigslist ad about rehoming two veiled chameleons. Obviously they are not veileds. They look like senegals to me, but I've never had senegals before and I'm not 100% sure. Can anyone confirm that they're senegals before I email the guy back?

 

[chameleonfan101]

yeah they are senegals!

 

[camimom]

They are senegals, and they should not be housed together.
You can tell from the spots showing, that they are stressed out.

 

[laurie]

I am way less than a expert at id'ing chams but they do look to be senegalensis, but a number of us have mistaken gracilis and senegalensis.

 

[raphael14]

yes as the others said they are senegals

 

[DanSB]

I see no occipital lobes which would be the main difference between C. Senegaensis and C. Gracilis (*Edit: Other than the size and coloration of adults Gracilis is larger and the coloration is slightly different). These are C. Senegalensis unless the camera angle is very good about hiding the occipital lobes. I have been recently "Schooled" by Trace on how to tell them apart so I am fairly confident I am correct here. I can find a link where Trace and Chris Anderson weigh in on IDing these little gems if you want.

And Camimom is right, those black dots indicate stress.

In my opinion these are awesome Chameleons, but I own one and might be biased.

 

[Chris Anderson]

Yep, they are Chamaeleo senegalensis.

Chris

 

[Captive Creations]

I agree they look pretty stressed out and should not be housed together