I seriously need help from someone!

Penelope,
Another poster beat me to it, but if coccidia were diagnosed, panacur is not the remedy. Besides the drug mentioned, we also use Albon. As we import on occasion, there are times when it is useful. Coccidia are nto so much an issue with a freshly wild-caught animal. Its the caging conditions it passes through after capture and during holding and export where it becomes more contaminated.

As for contaminated crickets, unfortunately most cricket suppliers, and especially resellers, such as pet stores, do not maintain their crickets properly so as to be instant chameleon food. The simple truth is that they do not have to, as the crickets can survive and thrive with dirty water. So they will not change-out water sources every other day, but rather maybe once a week or beyond. Only when the stink gets too bad. However, you can usually refresh purchased crickets by putting them on clean water and food for 48 hours.

We raise our own crickets here. Have for 12 years. We learned early-on about crickets and water contamination. We change our cricket waterers every two days. Its a pain in the butt, but not doing it is a catastrophe.

Some folks rely on such as plastic waterfalls, or other contraptions, to make their cage "prettier", perhaps enhance humidity, etc. All of that creates areas that are always wet, and thus quickly contaminated, and then with a little warmth and time, become sources of septic stew for loose bugs to access. Its common bacteria for the most part, but its the overwhelming volume released into the chameleon's mouth that is the dirty deed. Mucous build-up is the early warning.

I will PM you some Vitamin A info, explaining symptoms and treatment. I do not think that was your problem here, but cannot rule it out. Given time, the coccidia is certainly a game-stopper though. If there are then other issues, such as temps or nutrition, the coccidia overwhelms that much more quickly.

The learning curve has its pains .... ;)
 
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So sorry about your chameleon.
I know from having read some of your past posts that you cared very much about Ernie and you tried your best to help him.

Just for the sake of adding information to what has already been said, outside the US, Toltrazuril which is also sold under the brand name Baycox, is one of the new drugs used against coccidia.
In the US, Ponazuril is the similar drug that is a newer one to kill coccidia.
 
Thank you so much guys, I really appreciate your thoughts :)

@purplebiotch - I live in Dubai.. we don't have heaps of spiders like in Australia (I'm aussie).. but we do have them and we do have to be careful.. google camel spiders if you're feeling particularly curious!



i have seen these spiders on youtube:eek....they are quite mean looking little basterds:eek:....i have accually had the chance to see these things up close...as a pet store in my area was selling one...i asked if it was legal and was told yes... but i still dont think so.. i was also asked if i wanted to buy it... i hate spiders... but am worming up to them as my friend owns a taranchula ...but i wont hold it yet mabe one day.......i also had no clue chams could eat spiders....



i am also vary glad you are going to give cthe cham thing another try.....for you are a vary caring cham owner and i know this one will be the one:D.. keep your head up and try again....and i to have learned alot just following this thread.:D:eek:.
 
Thank you again to everyone for their kind words and advice.

If any thoughts come up and you would like to share something with me to improve my husbandry, I would more than appreciate it. I am still not sure as to what happened to Ernie.

If it was the coccidia, I'd have thought the vet would have mentioned this on the report?

Again, thank you for the continuous support. xx
 
Maybe the coccidia would only be mentioned on a micropathology report?
They are extremely small compared to other parasites and it appears that the vet was listing the observations which were visible to his eyes, not anything microscopic.

I can not overemphasize the need for you to clean and then disinfect everything from his cage that you plan to reuse with your new cham.
Whatever you can't thoroughly clean and disinfect, dispose of and get new.

Coccidia are highly contagious and the oocysts by which they spread are not easily killed.
Many substances which kill lots of other things, such as laundry bleach (sodium hypochlorite), are totally ineffective against coccidia oocysts.
Hydrogen peroxide of at least 9% concentration is one known substance which kills them.

As was mentioned, Toltrazuril, Baycox and Ponazuril are the medications used to kill coccidia--Panacur is only effective against nematodes (such as Ascarids/Roundworms) and it can also be used against Giardia.
Panacur has not effect on coccidia.
 
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Maybe the coccidia would only be mentioned on a micropathology report?
They are extremely small compared to other parasites and it appears that the vet was listing the observations which were visible to his eyes, not anything microscopic.

I can not overemphasize the need for you to clean and then disinfect everything from his cage that you plan to reuse with your new cham.
Whatever you can't thoroughly clean and disinfect, dispose of and get new.

Coccidia are highly contagious and the oocysts by which they spread are not easily killed.
Many substances which kill lots of other things, such as laundry bleach (sodium hypochlorite), are totally ineffective against coccidia oocysts.
Hydrogen peroxide of at least 9% concentration is one known substance which kills them.

As was mentioned, Toltrazuril, Baycox and Ponazuril are the medications used to kill coccidia--Panacur is only effective against nematodes (such as Ascarids/Roundworms) and it can also be used against Giardia.
Panacur has not effect on coccidia.

Thank you for this information :)

With the cage cleaning.. just for in case I miss something while I am cleaning it.. how long does the coccidia stay alive for?? does it die off? or will it find something to live in?
 
Thank you for this information :)

With the cage cleaning.. just for in case I miss something while I am cleaning it.. how long does the coccidia stay alive for?? does it die off? or will it find something to live in?

You have to clean everything thoroughly or it won't die off. Anything you are concerned about cleaning properly I would just throw out. :)
 
Thank you for this information :)

With the cage cleaning.. just for in case I miss something while I am cleaning it.. how long does the coccidia stay alive for?? does it die off? or will it find something to live in?

You're very welcome.
As David and I said, if anything cannot be thoroughly cleaned, you should throw it in the trash.
The oocysts need nothing to survive and will live for years on their own, ready to infect the next animal.
According to a post on beardeddragon.org, a 10% ammonia solution that is allowed to remain for 15-30 minutes will kill them also . http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=147412
 
Thank you both :)

This is my setup as of today and the last day Ernie was in it:
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I know I need to take the mats out again and give them a good clean, but what about the plant? It's growing really well and I don't want to get rid of it :(
Can my sticks and vines be treated with the solutions you have suggested? I have about a month (I think) before my new Cham arrives and I would like to do the cleaning as soon as possible to have plenty of time to be ready.
 
I have been told that the oocysts can probably be removed from plants by thoroughly washing them with dishwashing liquid soap at least once, followed by thorough rinsing.
You would need to replace at least the top few inches of the soil, to be safer.
Hydrogen peroxide that is strong enough to kill coccidia is too strong to be used on plants.

The safest would likely be to clean the plants as above, and use them as houseplants, rather than with your cham.

If the sticks and vines are artificial, you might be able to rid them of coccidia by thoroughly soaking them in the peroxide but it would be safer to throw them away.
If they are made of anything organic, then just throw them away because hydrogen peroxide rapidly degrades into water and oxygen in the presence of organic material, so it would do nothing to destroy coccidia.

No one likes discarding things but it is sometimes the only defense against transferring coccidia to a healthy animal.
 
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Hi, I'm Brendan, I too own a Veiled Chameleon in Dubai and was wondering where did you take your chameleon to get him checked. You mentioned checking his stool. Where did you manage to do that. There is nothing wrong with my Chameleon but i just want to have this information in advance, just in case. THANKS...
 
Hi, I'm Brendan, I too own a Veiled Chameleon in Dubai and was wondering where did you take your chameleon to get him checked. You mentioned checking his stool. Where did you manage to do that. There is nothing wrong with my Chameleon but i just want to have this information in advance, just in case. THANKS...

Hey! I am SO SORRY for the late reply!!!

Nad Al Shiba Veterinary Hospital.. Dr. Gemma or Dr. Giulio :)

PM me if you need anything else!!
 
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