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Paigenicklas

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Sex:Male
Bread:Veiled
Age:N/A? If I had to guess between 8-10 months old
Been in my care: Since Oct.2013

Handling: Quite often, I would say he is held at least once a day
Feeding: 3wk Crickets, 5/8 per day & always first thing in the morning
Gut feeders? All the crickets are store bought & as I explain below I am new to this

Supplements: EXO-TERRA calcium+d3 - Dusted once a week
Watering: Misted 2x a day - and I always have Ice Cubes Melting in a tray on the top of his cage - and yes, I see him drink quite often.

Fecal: - Havent payed much attention to this but I will note next bowel movement.
History: (See Below)

Cage: Screen Cage
Lighting: I was using a UVB 100 WATT (no uvb as of now) & heat lamp
Temp: 75-85
Humidity: Unknowen
Plants: None (until now - Hibiscus)
Placement: living room - no fans, air vents, or high traffic
Location: Kamloops, BC

Problem:
Hey there! I am a new chameleon owner, I have a young male veiled. We've had him here since October 2013 and he's done great - thriving and growing up until about 2 weeks ago.
He's not opening his eyes! I took him to the reptile guy in town and got absolutely no information.. Just drops for his eyes and advice to just feed him and hope for the best. (The drops are Tobramycin 0.3% its antibiotic and I give him one to twp drops in each eye every 4 hours.)
Problem is he is not eating, not drinking.
I found some information on a breader in town and he has been helping me, telling me different things to try. He also referred me to this site.
I bought him a new light, I was using a 100 watt UVB under the impression that's what he needed - I just learnt that can cause light sensitivity. I am leaving the UVB off now regardless of the change for a couple weeks to help him adjust.
I also just added a live plant to help with humidity.
His temperatures are good & he is hydrated.

But he is starving!! I feed him through a syringe using my pinky to coax his mouth open. I'm wondering if this is okay? I apply little to no pressure and after his feeding today he wound up with black spots!! One on his eye and one under his neck!!!??
I'm very worried and just need some advice. As I said, this is my first chameleon and I was under the impression I had everything I'd need for him. I was also told they were EASY to care for and now I'm undereducated and feel really bad for this poor little guy.
I guess I'm asking for your experience here, how normal or abnormal it this? And the safest way to tube feed him, If thats what i should be doing?
 
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Paigenicklas said:
Sex:Male
Bread:Veiled
Age:N/A? If I had to guess between 8-10 months old
Been in my care: Since Oct.2013

Handling: Quite often, I would say he is held at least once a day
Feeding: 3wk Crickets, 5/8 per day & always first thing in the morning
Gut feeders? All the crickets are store bought & as I explain below I am new to this

Supplements: EXO-TERRA calcium+d3 - Dusted once a week
Watering: Misted 2x a day - and I always have Ice Cubes Melting in a tray on the top of his cage - and yes, I see him drink quite often.

Fecal: - Havent payed much attention to this but I will note next bowel movement.
History: (See Below)

Cage: Screen Cage
Lighting: I was using a UVB 100 WATT (no uvb as of now) & heat lamp
Temp: 75-85
Humidity: Unknowen
Plants: None (until now - Hibiscus)
Placement: living room - no fans, air vents, or high traffic
Location: Kamloops, BC

Problem:
Hey there! I am a new chameleon owner, I have a young male veiled. We've had him here since October 2013 and he's done great - thriving and growing up until about 2 weeks ago.
He's not opening his eyes! I took him to the reptile guy in town and got absolutely no information.. Just drops for his eyes and advice to just feed him and hope for the best. (The drops are Tobramycin 0.3% its antibiotic and I give him one to twp drops in each eye every 4 hours.)
Problem is he is not eating, not drinking.
I found some information on a breader in town and he has been helping me, telling me different things to try. He also referred me to this site.
I bought him a new light, I was using a 100 watt UVB under the impression that's what he needed - I just learnt that can cause light sensitivity. I am leaving the UVB off now regardless of the change for a couple weeks to help him adjust.
I also just added a live plant to help with humidity.
His temperatures are good & he is hydrated.

But he is starving!! I feed him through a syringe using my pinky to coax his mouth open. I'm wondering if this is okay? I apply little to no pressure and after his feeding today he wound up with black spots!! One on his eye and one under his neck!!!??
I'm very worried and just need some advice. As I said, this is my first chameleon and I was under the impression I had everything I'd need for him. I was also told they were EASY to care for and now I'm undereducated and feel really bad for this poor little guy.
I guess I'm asking for your experience here, how normal or abnormal it this? And the safest way to tube feed him, If thats what i should be doing?
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Give this a good read, https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/caresheets/veiled/

You should only be using the calcium with D3 twice a month. You also need a multivitamin (with NO D3) inbetween the weeks you give the calcium with D3. You need to dust with plain calcium with no D3 atleast 5-6 days a week.

Gut loading means feeding the feeders good quality foods that will benefit the chameleon. Think of a lion, he's not a herbivore, but when he eats a zebra, he's getting the benefits of the zebras herbivores diet. Good things to gut load your feeders with is red bell peppers, oranges, apples, carrots, squash, sweet potatoes, little bit of mustard greens, etc. there are some things you shouldn't gut load with, there are some fantastic blogs about gut loading.

You need to get a gauge to measure humidity, and you must know what the basking temperatures are. Either it's too cold, or you could be cooking your chameleon. A 100 watt bulb can be extremely hot.

He has to have UVB, get the linear tube UVB light, it's not as intense as the coil bulb, and it gives better coverage in the enclosure. The coil bulbs were known to cause eye issues. I use a 100 watt bulb in my enclosure, but my fixture has a dimmer switch to adjust the temperature, and I've had no eye problems from it.

What size enclosure are you using?

If the person you took him to knew nothing of his health, I would question the eye drops.
 
Please post pictures of the chameleon and enclosure. You need to get the proper lighting as soon as possible. The reptisun 5.0 linear bulb is the most common option and it is readily available at local stores
 
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All post pictures as soon as I can figure out how, and I removed the UVB cause that's what the breader here in town suggested I do :(
Is that a no?
He's been without it for probably 2 days now. But I will get him a light this morning.
 
Paigenicklas said:
Ok, my spouse is on his way to the pet store now to buy him a light.
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I love you!! You care about your cham, and we are here to help! As long as you want and will follow the care sheet, and set you guy set up correctly, I think all will be well.

I am going to copy your health form and put some things in red for you to look at. I will also send you my ph # in a Private message. If you want me to call just give me your number, I can call Canada free even with me in the US.
 
Paigenicklas said:
Sex:Male
Bread:Veiled
Age:N/A? If I had to guess between 8-10 months old
Been in my care: Since Oct.2013
You really need to get ua a picture, and look at his legs. Do they have sharp joins or are they more curved?

Handling: Quite often, I would say he is held at least once a dayAs long as he comes to you and you do not force him to be held it is most likely ok. How does he act when he is being held?

Feeding: 3wk Crickets, 5/8 per day & always first thing in the morning Feeding in the morning. His feeders are way to small. You need to look down at the top of his head, the correct size crickets should fit between his eyes. He could really use more variety in feeders, can you get silk worms, horn worms, super worms? he may be bored with crickets.

Gut feeders? All the crickets are store bought & as I explain below I am new to this.Just try to get the crickets a day or two before you need to feed them and feed them as you were told earlier

Supplements: EXO-TERRA calcium+d3 - Dusted once a week As you were told, use calcium with no d3 as a daily dusting supplement, then alternate once a week with the minerals and calcium +d3. That way he will get all the kinds of supplements he needs to stay healthy.

Watering: Misted 2x a day - and I always have Ice Cubes Melting in a tray on the top of his cage - and yes, I see him drink quite often.
How long do you mist for each time? he will do better if you take a large paper or plastic cup with a tiny hole in it. They will drip longer and the water temp will be better for the cham.

Fecal: - Havent payed much attention to this but I will note next bowel movement.
History: (See Below)

Cage: Screen Cagewhat size is the cage?
Lighting: I was using a UVB 100 WATT (no uvb as of now) & heat lampyou do need a uvb, a linear one is best. You can buy a cheap fixture at walmart but get a good reptsun bulb if you can.
Temp: 75-85If he is that age he will need a warmer cage, you need a way to monitor both humidity and temps. All that info is in the care sheet.
Humidity: Unknowen
Plants: None (until now - Hibiscus)
Placement: living room - no fans, air vents, or high traffic
Location: Kamloops, BC

Problem:
Hey there! I am a new chameleon owner, I have a young male veiled. We've had him here since October 2013 and he's done great - thriving and growing up until about 2 weeks ago.
He's not opening his eyes! I took him to the reptile guy in town and got absolutely no information.. Just drops for his eyes and advice to just feed him and hope for the best. (The drops are Tobramycin 0.3% its antibiotic and I give him one to twp drops in each eye every 4 hours.)
Problem is he is not eating, not drinking.
I found some information on a breader in town and he has been helping me, telling me different things to try. He also referred me to this site.
I bought him a new light, I was using a 100 watt UVB under the impression that's what he needed - I just learnt that can cause light sensitivity. I am leaving the UVB off now regardless of the change for a couple weeks to help him adjust.
I also just added a live plant to help with humidity.
His temperatures are good & he is hydrated.good job

But he is starving!! I feed him through a syringe using my pinky to coax his mouth open. I'm wondering if this is okay? I apply little to no pressure and after his feeding today he wound up with black spots!! One on his eye and one under his neck!!!?? instead of feeding him with a syringe, when you get him to open his mouth put in a gutloaded cricket, that is much better for him
I'm very worried and just need some advice. As I said, this is my first chameleon and I was under the impression I had everything I'd need for him. I was also told they were EASY to care for and now I'm undereducated and feel really bad for this poor little guy.Don't panic, I would not say any cham is easy to care for, but at least you do have one of the best chams to learn with. Veilded are very hardy.
I guess I'm asking for your experience here, how normal or abnormal it this? And the safest way to tube feed him, If thats what i should be doing?
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So just know the people here want to help. You are trying so we will try with you.
 
Paigenicklas said:
All post pictures as soon as I can figure out how, and I removed the UVB cause that's what the breader here in town suggested I do :(
Is that a no?
He's been without it for probably 2 days now. But I will get him a light this morning.
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Remove the UV??? Can't imagine any decent breeder saying that! But, 2 days without UV isn't the problem, unless the bulb itself has been in use for over 6 months. If it has been, you need a new one anyway.
 
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