I made my purchase!
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reptilover
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Without pics its cool.. with pics it'll be great! 
reptilover
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Are senegals supposed to be that skinny? Looks Like a gust of wind would swoop him away!
Congrats on ur new friend
Congrats on ur new friend
Slug
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I am not sure, but yes, it is skinny (I don't know the sex yet, so any help is welcome). It is drinking very well already, probably stressed from shipment. I will see how it eats later tonight after it has adjusted a bit more to being here.
I am not sure of the age either, but it is really small. I do know that it is CB, as Big Apple Pet Supply does not sell any WC, which is rare to find a CB Senegal.
I will be posting plenty more pics...I was home all day taking them.
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skittles1234
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My girl was very skinny when i first got her. Let her get used to her surroundings first and she will become a piggy. Its also a girl i do believe thats a lil butt pouch i see that my girly has.
CUTEY rare to see them in decent condition!!You will DEFINATELY want to get her tested for parasites. My girl was loaded. I would wait a good 3-4 weeks before doing this though unless she shows signs of poor fecal quality or sleeping durning the day etc.. waiting the few weeks will help her destress a bit before she gets all poked and proded. I've found my wc's do 10x's better if i wait to fatten them up so they can handle the treatments.
Slug
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In case you missed it, it is a Captive Bred Senegal. The wild caught ones tend to have parasites, but would a captive bred one as well? Mine was bred on location at Big Apple Pet Supply in New York. They have a strict no WC animals sold policy.
Let me know! I just want to do what is best for my new Cham.
Let me know! I just want to do what is best for my new Cham.
luevelvet
Avid Member
I would highly doubt they bred C.senegalensis. They're all WC unfortunately.
Judging by the pic, the one you received is a WC female. I would recommend getting a fecal done in the next week or so and make sure you keep the cage very clean. It's best to know what you're working with before you assume they will fatten up without issues.
Good luck!
Luis
Judging by the pic, the one you received is a WC female. I would recommend getting a fecal done in the next week or so and make sure you keep the cage very clean. It's best to know what you're working with before you assume they will fatten up without issues.
Good luck!
Luis
Slug
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TAKEN FROM BIG APPLE PET SUPPLY'S WEBSITE ON THE SENEGAL CHAMELEON PAGE:
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Why Should I Purchase My Reptiles & Amphibians From Big Apple?
Experience - Over 15 years in the reptile industry - We are happy to provide you with our expert advice
Quality - Our reptiles & amphibians are guaranteed captive bred in a state-of-the-art breeding facility**
Honesty - We DO NOT under any circumstances sell wild caught reptiles or amphibians
Integrity - Guaranteed healthy arrival to your door plus an additional 3 day health guarantee on all reptiles
Trust - We guarantee that before we ship any reptile or amphibian it is voluntarily feeding
Sincerity - All our animals are treated like family (After all, we raised them) - you can depend on family quality support before and after your purchase
**All the reptiles we sell are captive bred stock with the only exception being our Ball Pythons & Red Eyed Tree Frogs, these are farm raised and come from a single trusted source.
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I confirmed this over the phone, and they assured me that it was captive bred. I do know some people in the New York area, I may send them on a scouting mission to 100 verify their claim.
http://www.bigappleherp.com/Senegal-Chameleons-Captive-Bred-Babies?sc=27&category=13667
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Why Should I Purchase My Reptiles & Amphibians From Big Apple?
Experience - Over 15 years in the reptile industry - We are happy to provide you with our expert advice
Quality - Our reptiles & amphibians are guaranteed captive bred in a state-of-the-art breeding facility**
Honesty - We DO NOT under any circumstances sell wild caught reptiles or amphibians
Integrity - Guaranteed healthy arrival to your door plus an additional 3 day health guarantee on all reptiles
Trust - We guarantee that before we ship any reptile or amphibian it is voluntarily feeding
Sincerity - All our animals are treated like family (After all, we raised them) - you can depend on family quality support before and after your purchase
**All the reptiles we sell are captive bred stock with the only exception being our Ball Pythons & Red Eyed Tree Frogs, these are farm raised and come from a single trusted source.
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I confirmed this over the phone, and they assured me that it was captive bred. I do know some people in the New York area, I may send them on a scouting mission to 100 verify their claim.
http://www.bigappleherp.com/Senegal-Chameleons-Captive-Bred-Babies?sc=27&category=13667
RealIzeRecognIze
New Member
All I see are leaves?? Haha jp cute cham, nice purchase
carol5208
Chameleon Enthusiast
They can print and say what they want but your senegalensis is not CB.
Luis
I believe what you say but am curious as to why. Is there a reason they cannot be bred in captivity? I have heard the Parsonii is almost impossible to breed in capitivity but why this species? And I agree with you, anyone can write what they want but it would be nice to think they are selling you what they advertise.
Slug
New Member
I was wondering that too. Are they just hard to breed in captivity or just undesired, or what?
Swayne8998
Established Member
He looks great Lol the first pic looks like he has an enormous left arm xD
Lol the first pic looks like he has an enormous left arm xD
Slug
New Member
It does in the actual URL. I am not 100% defending them, but I was told repeatedly over the phone and I am taking their word until I am proven otherwise.
luevelvet
Avid Member
They're never bred because they cost $1-$5 on the importer lists and such. Who can compete with that when they would cost $50 per animal to raise from egg?!
With that said, they're not the easiest to breed either. It's been done a handful of times, but it's certainly not something that is accomplished every day. The issues seem to be more with finding multiple animals from the same locale (they're spread all over the equator in Africa) and incubating the eggs than anything else. Also, being a rather "plain" chameleon doesn't give them much market interest either so it's basically the Green Anole of the chameleon world.
We are working with a group of senegalensis to see if we can make any headway and hopefully publish our experiences one day. We've had great luck with the WC's we've hand picked though they're still acclimating and won't be introduced until I'm sure they're free of all parasites and nasties.
Now on the issue of CB senegalensis from this company, well if they told you over the phone that it was CB, it was a bald face lie. Look at the scarring around the eye socket as well as how thin and boney this one is. These are all signs of the import process. They will heal up after a few sheds but it's still very advisable to get a fecal examined by a vet to make sure you won't face strange problems in a month or two. Good luck and keep us posted.
Cheers!
Luis
