Hornworms in the Uk

[Andy1987]

Hi all, does anybody know if it’s possible to get hornworms in the Uk, can’t seem to find them and I’ve heard that they might be on the banned import list ? Does anyone know if this is true ?

 

[Flick boy]

Hi can't get them in the uk the department for environment has them classed as pets . I buy pachnoda grubs

 

[Andy1987]

Hi can't get them in the uk the department for environment has them classed as pets . I buy pachnoda grubs

Right ok, haven’t sen those pachnoda grubs, basically the same as hornworms ?

 

[Flick boy]

I cant find any nutritional values but I wouldn't think there would be much difference. Silkworm uk sell pachnoda grubs. And yes hornworms are classified as an invasive species

 

[Andy1987]

I cant find any nutritional values but I wouldn't think there would be much difference. Silkworm uk sell pachnoda grubs. And yes hornworms are classified as an invasive species

Thanks for the input will Look at getting some
Of those

 

[Rhea’s mum]

Just make sure with the grubs to either squash or take of the head just before feeding as they have a VERY strong bite and could damage the tongue/mouth

 

[Andy1987]

Just make sure with the grubs to either squash or take of the head just before feeding as they have a VERY strong bite and could damage the tongue/mouth

Cool will do

 

[Kamikaze Chameleon]

Is the care for those grubs the same as hornworms? Will they eat the repashy hornworm food?

 

[Andy1987]

Is the care for those grubs the same as hornworms? Will they eat the repashy hornworm food?

Form what I’ve read on the net they don’t need to be gutloaded !? And they can just live in the peat they come in

https://www.thepetexpress.co.uk/live-reptile-food/pachnoda-grub-pachnoda-marginata-live-larvae/

 

[Kamikaze Chameleon]

Form what I’ve read on the net they don’t need to be gutloaded !? And they can just live in the peat they come in

https://www.thepetexpress.co.uk/live-reptile-food/pachnoda-grub-pachnoda-marginata-live-larvae/

Too bad we can't get those in the US ha

 

[Rhea’s mum]

I’m not sure whether they can be gutloaded. I seem to recall that they should only be a treat. The big lord may be the best person to ask @jamest0o0

 

[jamest0o0]

Nutrition in hornworm and grub would be very different. Hornworms are watery and pupate into moths. They feed on plant matter, usually tomato plants, but will accept many foods.

Pachnoda to beetles. They live in the ground. Grubs are meaty and higher in fat.
Most grubs only eat rotten wood, leaf litter, roots, etc...or each other lol. A friend said he was going to try soaking his leaf litter for harlequin beetle grubs in spirulina, bee pollen, and some other stuff to add nutrition. Not sure how that went though. I personally wouldn't bother.

 

[Andy1987]

Nutrition in hornworm and grub would be very different. Hornworms are watery and pupate into moths. They feed on plant matter, usually tomato plants, but will accept many foods.

Pachnoda to beetles. They live in the ground. Grubs are meaty and higher in fat.
Most grubs only eat rotten wood, leaf litter, roots, etc...or each other lol. A friend said he was going to try soaking his leaf litter for harlequin beetle grubs in spirulina, bee pollen, and some other stuff to add nutrition. Not sure how that went though. I personally wouldn't bother.

wouldn’t bother feeding to my Cham or gut loading ?

 

[jamest0o0]

wouldn’t bother feeding to my Cham or gut loading ?

Gutloading

 

[Andy1987]

Gutloading

Cool, thanks for the info, appreciate it

 

[Morfran]

Correct me if I'm wrong but it is technically illegal to sell and distribute hornworms in the UK but if you were to however go and adventure outside and found one or two you could capture and feed it to your insects without breaking the law. You'd technically be doing a service for you'd be capturing, removing, and "exterminating". As long as you don't take them home and immediately feed them I believe that wouldn't be breaking any laws. Please someone who actually knows the laws in detail confirm or deny this for I don't want to be spreading false information. I also live in US so I don't know any of UK laws for anything.