HELP! Won’t use back legs or tail!

chammythechammy

New Member
I have a female veiled chameleon who is about a year old. Just yesterday i noticed her at the bottom of her enclosure not moving much at all, she looked dead to me. After her misters came on she moved & i saw that she was alive so when my husband came home he helped me inspect her. She won’t use her tail at all, its limp, so is her back legs. Her back feet will still grip, but very lightly. She hardly moves & looks to be sleeping most of the time, she seems uncomfortable. I’m thinking it’s constipation, but she seems to be pooping just fine so i’m not sure. It doesn’t seem to be MBD to me. She gets her feeders dusted twice a month with & without D3, she has all her proper lighting/heating etc. I’m not sure what it is, she just seems tired & limp ):
 

janjan20

Chameleon Enthusiast
Hello, I would highly recommend taking her to a vet. Sleeping during the day is very bad and especially if she is at the bottom of the cage. Is there anyway you can send a pic. Also, if she is not able to grip well I would set her up in a hospital bin to prevent further injury. Have you had your husbandry reviewed? This may help give you some answers in the meantime. Just copy paste and fill out with as much detail as possible.
Edit: she is a yr old, when was the last time she laid eggs? Has she ever laid eggs? And do you have a lay bin?

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Brodybreaux25

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I have a female veiled chameleon who is about a year old. Just yesterday i noticed her at the bottom of her enclosure not moving much at all, she looked dead to me. After her misters came on she moved & i saw that she was alive so when my husband came home he helped me inspect her. She won’t use her tail at all, its limp, so is her back legs. Her back feet will still grip, but very lightly. She hardly moves & looks to be sleeping most of the time, she seems uncomfortable. I’m thinking it’s constipation, but she seems to be pooping just fine so i’m not sure. It doesn’t seem to be MBD to me. She gets her feeders dusted twice a month with & without D3, she has all her proper lighting/heating etc. I’m not sure what it is, she just seems tired & limp ):
This is going to be a combination of two different issues, both of which are related to MBD.

1- MBD has set in causing her to loose her grip and coordination. A weak and uncoordinated Cham is sure to fall at some point. With the MBD also making her bones very fragile breaks are guaranteed, spinal injuries are common.

2- MBD has set in resulting in her going eggbound. If she hasn’t had the correct supplement and UVB routine, and she sounds like she hasn’t based on your original post, her eggs will not develop properly resulting in an inability to lay them. Varying degrees of paralyzation of the rear half of her body is a common symptom of eggbound females.

Or it’s possible it’s a combination of all three, MBD, fall, and eggbound. Providing the info and pictures requested above will help us narrow down the possibilities. Right now your priorities are getting her to a vet first thing this morning, then come back with all of the requested info and we can discuss how to implement the required husbandry fixes. I want to stress that the husbandry fixes will not cure her, only prevent this from happening again down the road if she survives this.
 

Mawtyplant

Avid Member
Sorry to tell you that but prognosis is really bad, I saw this twice and perform autopsy one one. one the first this was caused by kidney failure (kidney was really big really inflamed and my guess is abnormal size did pinch a nerve
It can also be million of other reason :

-Tumor
-Constipation
-MBD
-neurological problem
-inflammatory disease
-bacterial infection
-other cause I can't think about
-parasite

without a vet and bit of money for the test (x-ray, bacteria culture, parasite test, blood testing) your chameleon will die (and with the treatment, still no warranty)

If you want, you can fill the how to ask for help form so we might be able to help you to better understand what possibly be the cause
 
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