Help with Identiyfing species

[Museumofosteology]

Hello, Our museum has received a few carcasses of a few chameleons that we need help Identifying. If you can help us with the species, please chime in.

 

[ChameleonRave]

i think it is the Kinyongia adolfifriderici but im not too sure, just wait for more members to chime in to help you out

 

[Killjoy]

**edit ** see below

 

[james L]

Kinyongia Oxyrhina???
Or maybe not Oxyhrina. Casques seem a little to large. I think it is some kind of Kinyongia though.

 

[Killjoy]

** revised opinion **

Found almost the perfect match..... Kinyongia xenorhina
link attached
this is your boy

http://www.biolib.cz/cz/taxonimage/id64131/

 

[eisentrauti]

Two Kinyongia xenorhina males. And I have no idea why they should be Furcifer rhinoceratus or Kinyongia adolfifriderici or the non existant "Chamaeleon voeltzkowi"

 

[james L]

Damn I was close!

 

[Killjoy]

Two Kinyongia xenorhina males. And I have no idea why they should be Furcifer rhinoceratus or Kinyongia adolfifriderici or the non existant "Chamaeleon voeltzkowi"

thats why i revised

 

[eisentrauti]

thats why i revised

I have just too much experience with dead Kinyongias

 

[Killjoy]

I have just too much experience with dead Kinyongias

im sorry to here it, there are a really cool genus, Ive been thinking about getting one. well i was gonna answer the thread a very different way at first but i held back. when he asked for help identifying what kind it was, my first reaction was.....the dead kind, but i decided to try and be more helpful.

 

[VeiledOwner87]

I have just too much experience with dead Kinyongias

is that a good thing?

 

[Cainschams]

I have just too much experience with dead Kinyongias

Same here. The ones in the picture look exactly like my dead xenorhina I am keeping his bones once nature is done with him

 

[kinyonga]

Does the museum study bones of all animals?
Where is the museum?

 

[eisentrauti]

is that a good thing?

Nothing to be proud of I have a HUGE collection of Chamaeleo alcoholensis...

 

[Museumofosteology]

Does the museum study bones of all animals?
Where is the museum?

The Museum is in Oklahoma City. www.museumofosteology.org

 

[Chris Anderson]

For what its worth, "Chamaeleon voeltzkowi" was described in 1893 by Boettger but it was later synopsized with Furcifer rhinoceratus and is thus no longer a valid species. Regardless, this is not what these specimens are. As stated, these two specimens are male Kinyongia xenorhina from the Ruwenzori Mountains.

On a side note, most of the time when people are asking for help IDing a species, they want to know what they actually are. Random guesses only dilute the effectiveness of help from people who know what the specimens actually are. They are very distracting, unhelpful and place unnecessary doubt on the all the information that is being given on the forum, including the correct information. I've always been a proponent for adopting the rule that many other forums have implemented against people making random guesses on IDs and requiring them to justify any identification they make. While in this case the incorrect ID would have just been an inconvenience, when its with a live animal, an incorrect ID can be a death sentence.

Chris

 

[Syn]

Nothing to be proud of I have a HUGE collection of Chamaeleo alcoholensis...

Just out of curiosity, do you have any pictures of your specimens? Stuff in glass jars intrigues me. Except pickles.

 

[Museumofosteology]

Thanks for everyone's help. It's truely appreciated.

 

[eisentrauti]

Just out of curiosity, do you have any pictures of your specimens? Stuff in glass jars intrigues me. Except pickles.

Believe me, chameleons look alive much better. Today I have added a Bradypodion female with 10 full developed juveniles...

And sorry for offtopic

 

[ruru]

wasnt expecting that
its a dead kind...made my stomach turn lol