Help with hatchlings

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joefarah

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Hi everyone,

I had a few unexpected hatchlings from a clutch that i thought was all bad (female was supposedly a virgin when the clutch was laid).

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These 2 lil fellas represent the first of what i hope will be many hatchlings to come...

I honestly had no idea how small and delicate these guys would be, and my former plans for housing them are now out the window. I was going to use my small "fresh air" habitats for small groups of them, but those now seem too large and drafty for these little hatchlings. Instead I;m keeping them individually in clear, tall deli-cups so i can keep them nice and humid to avoid dessication. Temps are 85 degrees F and humidity is 90%. I also am hitting them with 5.0 uv bulb and other lighting...

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Any tips on housing and caring for hatchlings would be GREATLY appreciated. Im sure there are many past threads that cover all this and if someone has a particular thread that they find especially good, I'd love the link to it.

What is the preferred food for hatchling panthers? pinheads? big fruit flies?

Thanks a million to anyone willing to contribute!
 
joefarah said:
Hi everyone,

I had a few unexpected hatchlings from a clutch that i thought was all bad (female was supposedly a virgin when the clutch was laid).

PantherBabies2001a.jpg


These 2 lil fellas represent the first of what i hope will be many hatchlings to come...

I honestly had no idea how small and delicate these guys would be, and my former plans for housing them are now out the window. I was going to use my small "fresh air" habitats for small groups of them, but those now seem too large and drafty for these little hatchlings. Instead I;m keeping them individually in clear, tall deli-cups so i can keep them nice and humid to avoid dessication. Temps are 85 degrees F and humidity is 90%. I also am hitting them with 5.0 uv bulb and other lighting...

Any tips on housing and caring for hatchlings would be GREATLY appreciated. Im sure there are many past threads that cover all this and if someone has a particular thread that they find especially good, I'd love the link to it.

What is the preferred food for hatchling panthers? pinheads? big fruit flies?

Thanks a million to anyone willing to contribute!
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Funny you should ask. I just completed a long entry on housing babies using an aquarium. Personal opinions and all. Its more for beginners, but its a "cook book" how to. Yep, I know that using an aquarium is a little controversial, (and maybe my opinions) but I've got the guts to post it :) and I've never lost a baby and found they thrive in this set-up. See link.

http://www.chameleonplantation.com/blog/
 
I have kept many hatchlings in aquariums with screen lids over the years. It works well. I use a 4' plant stand with three shelves. Each lighthood can take two florescents and two incandescents....which works out well. The incandescents can be shared by two aquariums and I can use one Repti-sun 5.0 and one bright regular florescent bulb in each hood. I rarely have to use the incandescents since the temperatures in the aquariums seem to be warm enough with the two florescents. I replaced the plant trays with wooden shelves that extend out past the florescents so that there can be warmer and cooler areas in the aquarium and it can get some air flow. Four cages go on each shelf...narrow end to the front of the shelf.
 
The female is supposedly an Ambanja, but since the guy who sold her to me lied about her being a virgin, I don't believe him about her locale either. He knew I had an ambanja male, so he could have said she was ambanja just so i'd buy her.
 
ahhh ahaha well i guess surprises are the best so you'll just have to wait until they age , but anywho nice babies there puggy lil buggers ahaah , brings me back to about a month ago ahahah when my nosy bes were just tiny fellas ahah i didnt touch them for two weeks until they had a shed cause they were just soo tiny, but my male nosy be is 2 months and a week old and hes shed twice in my care and is 5.5 inches long total length and the female is 4 and almost a quarter inch long so shes coming along behind him but again congrats on these lil fellas and hope they all grow to nice looking panthers
 
Thanks a lot for the encouragement boothy!!! They are really really delicate and tiny so i hope i can keep them alive and healthy. Im glad to hear you were successful :)
 
joefarah said:
The female is supposedly an Ambanja, but since the guy who sold her to me lied about her being a virgin, I don't believe him about her locale either. He knew I had an ambanja male, so he could have said she was ambanja just so i'd buy her.
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Yeah. Its brutal out there. Thats why I always ask what the locale is first before I let them know what I'm looking for...so they don't say what I want to hear. Theres a lot of liars and thieves out there.

But the good news is that you got the best of the seller. I doubt he'd have sold her if he knew she was gravid. Talk about a package deal!

Steve
 
Cutie Pies......

They sure are cuties...........I house my hatchlings in ExoTerra terrariums. They are all glass except the top which is screen. The top is removable and the front has doors that open which is convenient. I put an ESU combo hood on top with one ZooMed Reptisun 5.0 tube light and one 60 Watt black heat bulb inside the hood. I put a small potted ficus plant inside with some additional branches that go from the bottom of the cage to the top. If the babies fall off the plant they can climb up the branch. The crickets and fruit flies also climb up the branches from the bottom of the cage. I hand mist several times a day. I feed hatchlings fruit flies and pin head crickets. I watch several things closely. I watch to see that they drink when misted. I watch to see that their eyes are open most of the day and that they seem fairly active. I watch for tiny little poops that seem to get bigger every week that goes by. I sure hope you have luck with these babies. Kudos to you for taking this unexpected surprise and doing your best for these babies :)
 
Hey PardalisGirl,

Thanks for the tips and the kind words! I actually have 3 Exoterra 12x12x12 cages that are sitting in my basement unused. I was working with Phelsuma geckos until recently and I housed them in the exoterras. I wasnt aware they would make good hatchling cham enclosures, but I'll try setting one up when i get home.

Thanks again!!!
 
kinyonga said:
I have kept many hatchlings in aquariums with screen lids over the years. It works well. I use a 4' plant stand with three shelves. Each lighthood can take two florescents and two incandescents....which works out well. The incandescents can be shared by two aquariums and I can use one Repti-sun 5.0 and one bright regular florescent bulb in each hood. I rarely have to use the incandescents since the temperatures in the aquariums seem to be warm enough with the two florescents. I replaced the plant trays with wooden shelves that extend out past the florescents so that there can be warmer and cooler areas in the aquarium and it can get some air flow. Four cages go on each shelf...narrow end to the front of the shelf.
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Kinyonga? Do you have a pic of this setup?

Thanks,
Kevin
 
hey thanks alot Joefarah for the compliments i really appreaciate it and im sure you will be fine with these lil guys ahah you incubated the eggs and a good incubation is needed for strong babies and they look healthy and strong as heck so you did a great job in incubating them and im sure you will worry abit about them just as i did ahah but just aslong as you keep them properly humidity and temps and feed them and water them down then they will thrive like crazy
 
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