Help!!! vomited, won't eat or drink

[AnnieGottschall]

My veiled cham isnt doing too good he hasnt drunk or eating in the last few days we have fed him locus the other day and he wasnt interested in them so we tried him with some mealworms today but he isnt interested in them at all either, we thought he might be dehydrated so we turned the shower on and waiting for the room to fill with steam he was looking alot better after that but about an hour ago he started rattling and eventually he vomited, hes very weak, his eyes are sunk and hes all bright colours except for his head his head is very greyish but he doesnt seem to have lost any weight.
Could anyone help us???

 

[camimom]

fill this out.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
post pictures.
is he wheezing? rattling in the cheset?
could be an upper respiratory infection.

If it is. vet visit.

 

[Elizadolots]

"rattling" and vomiting sound like a vet visit is a very good idea.

 

[Hoj]

soory it dosent sound good i would reccomend a vet visit asap.
eliza beet me too it, and i see this is your 1st post welcome sorry it has to be on a crappy note.

 

[Hoj]

here is the how to ask for help form https://www.chameleonforums.com/how-ask-help-66/
i copy and pasted it into a word program then filled it out and copy and paste into threads as needed.
i know it is alot, but try to be specific

 

[AnnieGottschall]

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Veiled, Male, . been with us 7months
Handling - once a week
Feeding - 10 standerd mealworms and hes fed them 3 times a week, gut loading them by fruit and veg
Supplements - Komodo permium dusting with every feed
Watering - Dripper and misting 2-3 times a day for about 1-2 minutes, normally see him drinking
Fecal Description - nomal colour tough. Has never been tested for paracites
History -


Cage Info:

Cage Type - wooden viv 3ft tall 2ft wide and 1 ft deep
Lighting - exoterra uvb 5.0 and a pro rep 75w basking bulb
Temperature - 70-75 f
Humidity - 60-75, maintaining by misting and using a hydrometer to measure
Plants - all fake
Placement - cage is in an alcove near a air vent roughly 2 ft off the floor
Location - UK


Current Problem - cham very weak, sunken eyes, moving slowly has vomited not eating or drinking for the last few days we thought he was dehydrated so we filled the shower room with steam and sat in there with him for about half an hour

 

[AnnieGottschall]

The only reptile vet around here only comes on a wednesday once a month and its roughly 50 miles from me and i believe hes from England and im in Wales so vet is out of the option atm because no other vet around here knows how to deal with them we have asked just after we bought our cham

 

[camimom]

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - Veiled, Male, . been with us 7months
Handling - once a week
Feeding - 10 standerd mealworms and hes fed them 3 times a week, gut loading them by fruit and veg
Supplements - Komodo permium dusting with every feed
Watering - Dripper and misting 2-3 times a day for about 1-2 minutes, normally see him drinking
Fecal Description - nomal colour tough. Has never been tested for paracites
History -


Cage Info:

Cage Type - wooden viv 3ft tall 2ft wide and 1 ft deep
Lighting - exoterra uvb 5.0 and a pro rep 75w basking bulb
Temperature - 70-75 f
Humidity - 60-75, maintaining by misting and using a hydrometer to measure
Plants - all fake
Placement - cage is in an alcove near a air vent roughly 2 ft off the floor
Location - UK


Current Problem - cham very weak, sunken eyes, moving slowly has vomited not eating or drinking for the last few days we thought he was dehydrated so we filled the shower room with steam and sat in there with him for about half an hour

First- not sure on that supplement type, but im going to say its wrong. Calcium without d3 for every feeding, calcium iwth d3 twice a month, multivitamin twice a month.
He shouldnt eat so many mealworms. not healthy, crickets, dubia roaches, locusts, much better feeders.
is the urate white?
his basking spot is way too cold. 80-85 is better.

sounds like a respiratory infection- needs a vet, asap.
can you post pics of him too. from the sides?

heres a thread with a list of vets by country. see if any are near you.
and a respiratory infection wotn go away with just steam. you need antibiotics. from a vet. sorry.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/area-area-country-vet-list-32880/

 

[Elizadolots]

I forgot to say "Hi and welcome to the board". You'll find amazingly knowledgeable keepers here. I'm frankly in awe at the knowledge base here.

Mealworms are not typically recommended as a staple. Their outer bodies tend to be a bit hard and too much can cause issues.

When you say the poop is "normal color" what do you mean? Please describe it.

 

[AnnieGottschall]

he wont eat cricket or locus we gave him locus and thats what stopped him eating

 

[camimom]

he wont eat cricket or locus we gave him locus and thats what stopped him eating

Try dubia roaches.
THese are a staple feeder.
and when was the last time you tried to feed him crickets?
also, silkworms are good staple feeders too.

 

[AnnieGottschall]

his poop is brownish black with a white/ yellow bit on the end which is hows its been since we've had him

 

[AnnieGottschall]

tried giving him crickets 3 weeks ago he eat 1-2 a day but that was it. the first batch of locus we had he ate but the second batch he wouldnt even look at them

 

[Elizadolots]

Some chameleons are worm lovers and once they get a worm they don't want anything else. If the chameleon were healthy, I'd suggest not giving him any food for 3 or even 4 days, then giving him the healthier crickets or locusts. Whether you should try that with a chameleon that already has a health problem, I don't know.

Hoj, I saw that comment! Thank you.

**edited to add**

Okay, that poop sounds good. It's not unheard of for first time chameleon owners not to know what "normal" is. Sometimes they are very surprised to hear that "brown and orange" isn't, in fact, normal, so I always ask.

 

[camimom]

his basking spot is way too cold. 80-85 is better.

sounds like a respiratory infection- needs a vet, asap.
can you post pics of him too. from the sides?

heres a thread with a list of vets by country. see if any are near you.
and a respiratory infection wotn go away with just steam. you need antibiotics. from a vet. sorry.

i posted a thread in here, a few posts upm with the vet list.
if it is an ri, vet is the ONLY one who can treat it.

 

[AnnieGottschall]

have look at the area by ares thread and there isnt a vet in our area at all that deal with exotic animals

 

[camimom]

Im sorry.
may have to risk a vet who doesnt know much. tell them he has an ri.
they might be able to diagnose that without having good knowledge on chams,
others can post what drugs theyve used and dosages so you can tell the vet that.

 

[AnnieGottschall]

can only get pics of one side of him dont want to pull him out, dont want to cause anymore stress for him

 

[camimom]

can only get pics of one side of him dont want to pull him out, dont want to cause anymore stress for him

just get what pics you can,
i really want to see his legs and arms.

 

[AnnieGottschall]

our sick cham