HELP....Chameleon not eating.....HELP

[merumontanus]

Well, chalk up another brilliant ID success for me!
HA!

-Brad

I am going to lean toward senegalensis as well, Brad, at least until the owner can provide a clearer photo (particularly around the neck and rostrum). Their bodies appear too elongated to be dilepis, in my opinion, and the dorsal crest is not as pronounced as I would expect to see on a flap-neck.

The bottom line is that they are not veiled chameleons. Nevertheless, Senegals are an underrated species that deserve more attention-- although definitely not the ideal species for someone starting out with chameleons.

Welcome to the forums, pete...

Cheers,

Fabián

 

[Dunnigan]

Holy cow-150watts on that little glass cage? You are baking them! Tell me you have a digital thermometer and not an anlaog dial type thermometer.

he said he has a strip thermometer

 

[Julirs]

Even worse.

 

[Dunnigan]

Word.

I think this would be a good time to say how much i love the thermometers that have the probes on the end of wire. I just tape those to the basking branch and another at the bottom of the cage.

This makes it very easy to monitor the temps in both my cages

 

[Titan]

Wow this thread got long quick, But I will throw in my 2 cents. The Chams look to be in good health, But that does not mean they do not have paracites, as most of those species have when Ripped from the branches and resold to the unsuspected.
I examined the picks you posted on the other thread since they are clearer. And I'll have to say I think he was sold a Flapneck the first set of pic's there and a Senagal the second two! Those species look very simular aside from some slight markings and of coarse the small flaps at the Back of the head. So you not only were not sold Veilds! You appear to have two separate but closely related species as mentioned above.
Do me a favor,- I live In possibly one of the coldest places in the Nation with temps to -45 below in the winters AND I WILL NEVER USE Glass enclosuses for any of my Chams Except my Pigmy's! Retire that cage to Gecko's or something and get yourself a screaned cage of decent size before it is to late. Also good idea to separate the 2 from each other. Buy one big screened cage and separate it in 2 with cardboard or something better, so they are side by side. This way you can use one linear light between the 2 sides. Not being harsh, it seems you obviously care for these Chams even though they are not Veilds. These species you have recieved are fun and friendly.

 

[merumontanus]

... I examined the picks you posted on the other thread since they are clearer. And I'll have to say I think he was sold a Flapneck the first set of pic's there and a Senagal the second two!

Ha, I just found the other thread with the 4 clear photos of the animals (thanks, Titan). I am now convinced these are senegalensis. The homogeneous scalation typical of the species (as well as the more slender body and decreased dorsal crest) give it away. Not to mention the lack of occipital lobes.

Pete, have a look at Kristina Francis' detailed account on the species:

The Senegal Chameleon

Cheers,

Fabián

 

[Titan]

Cheers for Merumontanus! you are absolutly Right!, I just went back to the picks and I have to admit It appears the flaps are on the first couple pics. BUT I was able to click on them and it zooms in! And Without any doubt Senagal! Both Chams are Senagal. But Most definatly Petedoggg Not a Veild

Either way It appears you have 2 healthy Senagal Chameleons. My Son's favorite Cham we have owned to date was his Senagal, What a fun personable Cham he was! Keep your eye on any declining health signs, as Paracites are usually part of obtaining these Wild caught Chams. Or Try purchasing "Reptaid" and administering it as directed, just to make sure. Ive used it and it helps more than killing any possible paracites, better to be safe than sorry. (Of hand and I'm tired,for tonight.) search reptaid and you should get the info you need for that product. Good luck your Veilds er/ Senagals look good and your setup seems fine just separate as stated above!

 

[Vegas Darci]

Hi Petedoggg, we breed chameleons here in Nevada and my first advice would be YES lower the temps a bit (especially since it is an all glass cage). That is keeping the heat in more than it should and unless they are being misted constantly it will definitely get too hot for them in there. We always recommend an all screen enclosure. It is much better ventilated and a glass enclosure can cause upper respiratory infections to chameleons. Mist them some more if you can (a good heavy mist) although it is good that you have a dripper going. They do probably need a chance to settle in. I would not handle them for awhile...just let them get adjusted. And just give them a few crickets and see how they do. If they won't eat those you can try some small silkworms if you can get some or maybe even a couple waxworms if they are not eating. Waxworms are not good for a chameleon on a regular basis but they are higher in fat (so they are okay occassionally) and may help get some strength in them if they are skinny and not eating. Hang in there...hopefully with the advice given they will pull through for you.

 

[petedoggg]

I would like to thank everyone for there help... They are doing alot better now, they are both eating well, so again i would like to thank all of you, without your help i dont know what i wouldve done... So thank you guys again..

 

[merumontanus]

Cheers for Merumontanus! you are absolutly Right!

The credit should go to Brad

Glad to hear they are doing better, Pete. A screen enclosure and isolation from each other will itself improve their chances exponentially.

Good luck