EpicWin
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Chameleon Info:
Cage Info:
Current Problem - He just refuses to drink. I tried everything, it seems… even the shower method. His dripper is always going, fogger on all day, I just tried a shower with one of his ficus trees for about 45 minutes and all he wanted to do was escape. He got really stressed out and panicked. Shower was not directly on him, it was just a really nice fine, warm mist barely sprinkling him and the plants. I don’t know what to do… How can an animal not instinctually seek out water? His poop is not looking good right now. The poo part looks healthy, but the urate is dark orange. He only poops when he’s outside his cage, in the sunlight. And today was the first poop I’ve ever seen look this bad. His urate is always perfect paper white to really really light yellow, practically white. Any ideas?? I really need him to drink, I love this lil guy.
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Your Chameleon - BlueBar Ambilobe Panther Cham, Male, About 10 months old. 5 Months in my care.
Handling - Daily. Because he never poops in his cage and will hold it forever unless I bring him into the sunlight.
Feeding - Dubia Roaches, Super Worms, Crix in random rotation. Large Dubias - 3-5 daily. Large SuperWorms - 3-5 daily. Large Crix 5-7 daily. He does not eat all of them. And lately has become a very selective/picky eater. Sometimes, just not eating for a day or two. Feeders gut loaded with flukers green nutrition/hydration cubes. I know it’s lazy…
Supplements - RepCal Calcium (no D3) Daily. RepCal Calcium w/D3 + RepCal Herpivite once every other week.
Watering - Using a dripper with drips at 3 drops/second. Refill 3x daily with misting. Also has a Reptifogger that condenses at the top of the cage for more drips, consistent throughout the day. 3 to 5 times per day (it dries up pretty quick) for about 1 to 2 minutes. I never (EVER) see him drink. He only drinks when I unscrew the spray bottle and allow the water to pool in the nozzle, he then drinks it out. This, so far, has been the ONLY time I see him drink.
Fecal Description - Poop has always been healthy. Moist/brown with clear, perfect white Urates. Occasionally, he’ll have a poo here and there, where it’s slightly yellow, but never orange (as seen below). No parasite testing, was captive bred, purchased from Screameleons.com
History - He had a brief bout with Gular Edema, but I discovered that was due to over-supplementation on a calcium supplement that the pet store had previously said was ONLY calcium, but I later found out, it was chalked full of other stuff too. Replaced that with RepCal Calcium ONLY and his Edema went away completely.
Handling - Daily. Because he never poops in his cage and will hold it forever unless I bring him into the sunlight.
Feeding - Dubia Roaches, Super Worms, Crix in random rotation. Large Dubias - 3-5 daily. Large SuperWorms - 3-5 daily. Large Crix 5-7 daily. He does not eat all of them. And lately has become a very selective/picky eater. Sometimes, just not eating for a day or two. Feeders gut loaded with flukers green nutrition/hydration cubes. I know it’s lazy…
Supplements - RepCal Calcium (no D3) Daily. RepCal Calcium w/D3 + RepCal Herpivite once every other week.
Watering - Using a dripper with drips at 3 drops/second. Refill 3x daily with misting. Also has a Reptifogger that condenses at the top of the cage for more drips, consistent throughout the day. 3 to 5 times per day (it dries up pretty quick) for about 1 to 2 minutes. I never (EVER) see him drink. He only drinks when I unscrew the spray bottle and allow the water to pool in the nozzle, he then drinks it out. This, so far, has been the ONLY time I see him drink.
Fecal Description - Poop has always been healthy. Moist/brown with clear, perfect white Urates. Occasionally, he’ll have a poo here and there, where it’s slightly yellow, but never orange (as seen below). No parasite testing, was captive bred, purchased from Screameleons.com
History - He had a brief bout with Gular Edema, but I discovered that was due to over-supplementation on a calcium supplement that the pet store had previously said was ONLY calcium, but I later found out, it was chalked full of other stuff too. Replaced that with RepCal Calcium ONLY and his Edema went away completely.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - All screen, Reptibreeze 24wx24dx48h
Lighting - 12 Hours On Day, 12 Hours Off Night. Uses Powersun UVB 160 watt on top of cage to minimize clutter. I’ve heard they cause blindness but that makes no sense to me, as in nature, the sun could theoretically blind them too…
Temperature - Daytime temps: 70 to 75 at the bottom, 80 to 90 at the top. Lowest overnight temp: Around 65 to 70 degrees ambient. Temps measured with corded yellow thermometer. But it’s white. So temps likely a few degrees higher.
Humidity - Humidity is always between 50% and 70%, measured with a humidity gauge on the middle side of the cage. I never spray it, to avoid inaccurate measurements.
Plants - 2 baby Ficus Trees, 2 baby Schefflera plants.
Placement - Cage is located next to window. When I was free ranging, he always would try to get to the window and chill there, it’s his favorite spot. All in my room, low to no traffic (just me occasionally in to check on him), no fans, vents or drafts. Top of the cage is about 7.5 feet off the ground. Cage is on top of a 3.5 ft tall desk.
Location - Southern California, Inland.
Lighting - 12 Hours On Day, 12 Hours Off Night. Uses Powersun UVB 160 watt on top of cage to minimize clutter. I’ve heard they cause blindness but that makes no sense to me, as in nature, the sun could theoretically blind them too…
Temperature - Daytime temps: 70 to 75 at the bottom, 80 to 90 at the top. Lowest overnight temp: Around 65 to 70 degrees ambient. Temps measured with corded yellow thermometer. But it’s white. So temps likely a few degrees higher.
Humidity - Humidity is always between 50% and 70%, measured with a humidity gauge on the middle side of the cage. I never spray it, to avoid inaccurate measurements.
Plants - 2 baby Ficus Trees, 2 baby Schefflera plants.
Placement - Cage is located next to window. When I was free ranging, he always would try to get to the window and chill there, it’s his favorite spot. All in my room, low to no traffic (just me occasionally in to check on him), no fans, vents or drafts. Top of the cage is about 7.5 feet off the ground. Cage is on top of a 3.5 ft tall desk.
Location - Southern California, Inland.
Current Problem - He just refuses to drink. I tried everything, it seems… even the shower method. His dripper is always going, fogger on all day, I just tried a shower with one of his ficus trees for about 45 minutes and all he wanted to do was escape. He got really stressed out and panicked. Shower was not directly on him, it was just a really nice fine, warm mist barely sprinkling him and the plants. I don’t know what to do… How can an animal not instinctually seek out water? His poop is not looking good right now. The poo part looks healthy, but the urate is dark orange. He only poops when he’s outside his cage, in the sunlight. And today was the first poop I’ve ever seen look this bad. His urate is always perfect paper white to really really light yellow, practically white. Any ideas?? I really need him to drink, I love this lil guy.
Images incoming...
