gut load

[chameleon guy]

So I have been wondering about anything on this list that would be unsafe.

carrots
potatoes(sweet, red, white etc)
romaine lettuce
boiled eggs
straw berries
apples
corn
oranges
tomatoes
bell peppers
water melon
red lettuce
grapes
collard greens
mustard greens
squash
banana

 

[ColorCham427]

carrots
sweet potato
romaine lettuce
apples
oranges
collard greens
mustard greens
squash

 

[ColorCham427]

above are the gutloads that are useful, as with the hard boiled egg. only cooked egg yolk is ok. egg whites are not. tomato are a no no.

everything else is not needed.

i think reg. melon is good. watermelon, not so sure?

 

[ColorCham427]

you also could use a dry gutload that provides other things.

the chameleonsonly.com website has a great dry gutload recipe.

Kale is great for a gutload too!

 

[jojackson]

carrots
potatoes(sweet, red, white etc) starch
romaine lettuce useless except for moisture
boiled eggs
straw berries
apples
corn Not too much, high potassium
oranges Bit iffy~ Acids?
tomatoes never considered it??
bell peppers ???
water melon
red lettuce useless except for moisture
grapes
collard greens
mustard greens
squash
banana Not too much, high potassium

 

[PNsSP]

hope this helps in addition to what everyone else says
http://www.chameleonnews.com/?page=article&id=101

 

[Powers]

Here is a good REFERENCE for nutritional info.

 

[sandrachameleon]

carrots - Good
potatoes(sweet, red, white etc) - not good, but still "safe"
romaine lettuce - not overly good, but okay
boiled eggs - avoid
straw berries - ok
apples - fine
corn - avoid
oranges - okay
tomatoes - avoid
bell peppers - ok
water melon - ok
red lettuce - fairly pointless, but "safe"
grapes - not too many, high in sugars
collard greens - GOOD
mustard greens - GOOD
squash - GOOD
banana - not too much

More info on gutloading: https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition.html

 

[Sang]

i thought bananas were a natural laxative for people? how does that work for chams?

 

[jojackson]

i thought bananas were a natural laxative for people? how does that work for chams?

Correction to my earlier post, my error, I meant 'phosphorus' not potassium. They are quite high in phosphorus, which negates calcium.

 

[sandrachameleon]

in one medium banana

jojackson, you were right both times. They are higher in Phosphorus than in Calcium (which is not ideal), and are also high in potassium (which isnt a big problem). A little banana occassionally fed to feeders wont do any harm, but it is not a good gutload.

Water 88.39 g
Energy 105 kcal
Energy 438 kJ
Protein 1.29 g
Total lipid (fat) 0.39 g
Ash 0.97 g
Carbohydrate, by difference 26.95 g
Fiber, total dietary 3.1 g
Sugars, total 14.43 g
Sucrose 2.82 g
Glucose (dextrose) 5.88 g
Fructose 5.72 g
Lactose 0 g
Maltose 0.01 g
Galactose 0 g
Starch 6.35 g
Calcium, Ca 6 mg
Iron, Fe 0.31 mg
Magnesium, Mg 32 mg
Phosphorus, P 26 mg
Potassium, K 422 mg
Sodium, Na 1 mg
Zinc, Zn 0.18 mg
Copper, Cu 0.092 mg
Manganese, Mn 0.319 mg
Fluoride, F 2.6 mcg
Selenium, Se 1.2 mcg
Vitamin C, ascorbic acid 10.3 mg
Thiamin 0.037 mg
Riboflavin 0.086 mg
Niacin 0.785 mg
Pantothenic acid 0.394 mg
Vitamin B-6 0.433 mg
Folate, total 24 mcg
Folic acid 0 mcg
Folate, food 24 mcg
Folate, DFE 24 mcg_DFE
Choline, total 11.6 mg
Betaine 0.1 mg
Vitamin B-12 0 mcg
Vitamin B-12 0 mcg
Vitamin A, RAE 4 mcg_RAE
Retinol 0 mcg
Carotene, beta 31 mcg
Carotene, alpha 30 mcg
Cryptoxanthin, beta 0 mcg
Vitamin A, IU 76 IU
Lycopene 0 mcg
Lutein + zeaxanthin 26 mcg
Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) 0.12 mg
Tocopherol, beta 0 mg
Tocopherol, gamma 0.02 mg
Tocopherol, delta 0.01 mg
Vitamin K (phylloquinone) 0.6 mcg

 

[philanddeb818]

i thought bananas were a natural laxative for people? how does that work for chams?

I understand bannana to be binding. I could be wrong. Hope this helps.

 

[Sang]

nope, LOL when i want to get things moving, down 2-3 bananas.

 

[sandrachameleon]

I understand bannana to be binding. I could be wrong. Hope this helps.

I think you're right. They're fairly high in Oxalic Acid, which can bind with Calcium.
thought not, apparently, with Sang's insides.

 

[kinyonga]

Romain has a decent ratio of calcium to phosphorous and some good levels of some vitamins so its still not bad to use it sparingly...
http://nutrition.about.com/od/fruitsandvegetables/p/romaine.htm

 

[Fidget321]

I read somewhere that if you gut load with potato, they should not be put in the refrigerator (The potatoes), as all that starch turns to sugar.

You'll be feeding your chams cricket twinkies.

Hope this helps

 

[dodolah]

I read somewhere that if you gut load with potato, they should not be put in the refrigerator (The potatoes), as all that starch turns to sugar.

You'll be feeding your chams cricket twinkies.

Hope this helps

Never heard of this. Got a link that talk about this in depth?
I am not aware how cold temperature changes carbs into sugar?

 

[Fidget321]

Never heard of this. Got a link that talk about this in depth?
I am not aware how cold temperature changes carbs into sugar?

Not carbs but starch.
Here you go:
"If potatoes are stored at temperatures below 40 degrees F this results in the conversion of starch into sugar"

www.professorshouse.com

Here is another:

"Cold temperatures convert potatoes' starch into sugar"

www.cs.mcgill.ca


Specifically in regards to gut loading:

" Potato as cricket food : potatoe that has been held in a refrigeration for storage will loose quite a bit of the nutritional value as this cooling process turns the starch in to sugar . In a round about way you are feeding you crickets a “vegetable Twinkie”"

www.angelfire.com/

From a scientific perspective I have no idea

Hope this helps

 

[summoner12]

Cricket crack! Ftw!!!

 

[Malicious]

Cricket crack! Ftw!!!

lol Kev...



I have been using lots of squash lately, the Nursery near the shop is basically giving away fruits and veggies that are growing from their inventory.

I got zuchinnis the size of my arm 3 for $1, and squashes the size of pumpkins 3 for $1! It breaks down to like .10 per pound!!

WooT, even the crickets get to live like kings!!