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BoopsPerson

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Hello. :) So let me introduce myself, I'm Boop's person, aka Liz.

I'm into stuff like anime, video games, science (chem and biology in particular), etc.

But let me tell you about my pets and my pet history.

Growing up my family was the type to always have 5 or more pets in the house. When I was growing up we had cats, dogs, birds and rabbits. When I was old enough to care for pets on my own we got hamsters. Eventually I talked my mother into rats (of which she ended up falling in love with).

But I remember going through a pet store, one with a lot of exotics, and coming across a monster sized chameleon (ok, it was probably just a normal sized one, but I think I was 8 and at the time I saw a huge monster sized chameleon). I was fascinated by the guy, but there was no way in hell my mom would ever get anything reptilian (other than turtles, my brother was obsessed with Ninja turtles and ended up with his own turtle army for a period of time).

Over time we had many pets...my brother got into snakes. I was into rats, mice, ferrets, guinea pigs, etc. Most of my animals came to me rescued (I got one ferret as a graduation present and ended up with six more rescues once people heard I was looking for a friend for my ferret).

It's been 22 years since I saw that chameleon in the pet store. I've had and lost many pets. I lost one of my ferrets last week, and a month before that I had lost a ferret (they're very old). I was down to one ferret and my family was dreading me ending up with more. Though my fiance is allergic so I tried to promise myself nothing furry.

I still have three cats (Captain Jack Sparrow, Lily Monster, and Kitten Nicodemus), two rats (Sissel and Persnickety), one ferret (Locke), and a Sun Conure (Lucy). Technically I have my mom's fish since she decided she didn't want to take care of them (they're mean fish so you don't want to hear my names for them :p).

But this past Saturday I was doing my usual break the bank pet shopping at Petco when I came across a little Chameleon all alone. Tiny little baby, maybe two inches (body only long, 4.5 inches including tail). He was a veiled chameleon. Normally $90 he'd been marked to $60. And that weekend they had a 50% sale on all reptiles making him $30. They had a chameleon habitat for 50% off too. I'd never seen chameleons openly for sale around here and now this sounded like a deal. So I picked him up.

And now here I am. I refer to Boop as a he, but it's more of a generic calling. He could be a she. Boop is named after my grandmother who many referred to as Betty Boop. I felt Boop was a gender neutral name.

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He looks rather skinny to me. He was willing to eat some worms straight from my hand and my roommate's hand the very next day (since we brought him home Saturday night we let him settle in). He ate superworms covered in calcium quite well. His normal diet at petco seemed to only consist of dead crickets. I got a supply of them just in case (I know some animals are finicky about changing diets and won't recognize new foods though Boop doesn't seem to have that problem).

You can sorta tell his cage is currently sparsely decorated. I wanted to wait til it was set up to see what I should get, so I placed some orders on cheap fake plants and branches. Also waiting on my little plant waterfall thing to come in the mail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0EZDNmtCJw

He's a sassy little bugger too. Scared the crap out of a 6 foot tall tough looking petco worker, he made his female associate get Boop out of his cage and into a box. :)

So I'll post more about Boop and may even do a little video. I want to rely a lot on hand feeding and getting him on a schedule, I'd like him to be comfortable with being handled - I always prefer my pets being good with handling. Makes it easier to check them over routinely.

Any questions? Comments? Advice? Feel free to post and talk to me. :)
 
Welcome to the forums Liz and Boop. This is a great place to learn about chameleons and meet other keepers. Boop is a little cutie. You can tell the sex by looking at the heels on the back feet. If there's a little bump on both heels then he's a boy. These bumps are called spurs and the girls do not have them. Most pet stores know very little about chameleons and general sale people the wrong set up and supplies. I have found that most pet stores don't even offer the correct supplies and they must be ordered on line. To keep Boob healthy you need the correct enclosure, correct lighting, the correct supplements and a variety of well gut loaded feeders. I keep veileds along with a couple other species. You can see my veileds here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/my-beautiful-veileds-142194/
I also have a blog for new keepers that I'll attach below. It will tell you everything you need to keep Boob healthy and happy. I'll be looking forward to watching Boob grow up via pictures here on the forums. https://www.chameleonforums.com/blo...-keepers-young-veiled-panther-chameleons.html

More chameleon in for here: https://www.chameleonforums.com/care/chameleons/
 
Congratulations on the new pet! This place is a goldmine for information along with a lot of people that are willing to answer all your questions! Definitely take a look at the caresheets for Veileds and do listen to ANYTHING Jannb has to say :) Cheers!
 
You got a pretty awesome family going on there Jannb!

Yeah, I never go directly by what the pet stores tell me. I made sure to google all the correct info before buying the basics. I did more research and ordered stuff online afterwards.

It'll probably be a little while before I directly handle Boop. I don't want him stressed. In less than 2 months we're moving as well, so that'll be a fun experience as well.

Thanks for all the welcomes!
 
I googled what spurs looked like and handled Boop a little. I don't think Boop has spurs so I'm guessing she's a she!

When she's more settled I'll get some pictures of her hind feet up to confirm. Currently she's enjoying the jungle I added to her cage.
 
Thank you for the compliment on my veiled family. We will be glad to look at the photos of Boobs heels if indeed Boob is a girl you will need to set up a laying bin in her enclosure in a couple months. Females lay eggs without a male even being around and if they are not provided with a proper laying bin they become egg bound and die. :(
 
Yes, you have a girl! I have some info for you about girls. They lay eggs without a male even being around. By 5 months old I recommend having a laying bin in her enclosure at all times and around that same time, depending on her size, you can cut back her food and heat and you might be about to prevent her from laying or atleast make the clutch smaller.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-female-veiled.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/laying-bin-set-up-educational-video-77225/
 
Yes, you have a girl! I have some info for you about girls. They lay eggs without a male even being around. By 5 months old I recommend having a laying bin in her enclosure at all times and around that same time, depending on her size, you can cut back her food and heat and you might be about to prevent her from laying or atleast make the clutch smaller.
http://raisingkittytheveiledchameleon.blogspot.com/2007/12/keeping-female-veiled.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/jannb/345-egg-laying-laying-bin.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/laying-bin-set-up-educational-video-77225/

Out of curiosity since I don't see it *particularly* addressed...is it recommended to attempt to keep them from laying when they're not being bred? Or let them lay? Is one better for their health than the other?

I know in various birds/reptiles letting them lay and go through it is considered healthier and others say it's too dangerous due to calcium/bone issues. There seem to be two sides arguing the point and I'm curious what the thought is on chameleons.
 
Out of curiosity since I don't see it *particularly* addressed...is it recommended to attempt to keep them from laying when they're not being bred? Or let them lay? Is one better for their health than the other?

I know in various birds/reptiles letting them lay and go through it is considered healthier and others say it's too dangerous due to calcium/bone issues. There seem to be two sides arguing the point and I'm curious what the thought is on chameleons.

Forming eggs and laying eggs can cause all kind of complications in chameleons. They often become egg bound and die. Every clutch they lay normally shortens their life and the larger the clutch the harder it is on them. You might want to search egg laying complications or look through the health section to get an idea of what all can go wrong. I've had some bad experiences with 3 of the 7 girls that I've had.
 
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I'm going to attempt discouraging mine then.

I've gone through the egg thing with my bird and my family enabling her sex drive. The complications look, for the most part, very similar. I prefer to avoid complications.
 
I'm going to attempt discouraging mine then.

I've gone through the egg thing with my bird and my family enabling her sex drive. The complications look, for the most part, very similar. I prefer to avoid complications.

The RaisingKitty blog has some information on temps and feeding in an effort to keep them from laying. I haven't looked too deep into it, as the few females I have are pygmies, and part of breeding groups. I have two male panthers, and a male quad.
 
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