gangrene causes?

h4nk0

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I currently have a 5 month old panther who has recently lost a foot to gangrene and another two are infected. Even though I have probably stopped its progression she is in a very bad state and is pure black in colour now (used to be red and white) and very unresponsive. I'm taking her again to the vet tomorrow but it would be great for a little input into the causes of gangrene in chameleons as there isn't much information about it. It's strange that it started in three feet at the same time.
 
Loss of blood flow to an area (retained shed) or infected injuries. Are you using a DIY cage with rough wire? Are you using anything in the cage that could be cutting the feet?
 
I currently have a 5 month old panther who has recently lost a foot to gangrene and another two are infected. Even though I have probably stopped its progression she is in a very bad state and is pure black in colour now (used to be red and white) and very unresponsive. I'm taking her again to the vet tomorrow but it would be great for a little input into the causes of gangrene in chameleons as there isn't much information about it. It's strange that it started in three feet at the same time.

There has been discussion in melleri circles about "ulcerative pododermatitis" which is an aggressive infection of a cham's foot pads. I don't know that much about it, or whether that term is just a descriptive name for the symptoms rather than a disease in itself (kind of like stomatitis or mouth rot...not a specific illness, just the resulting symptom).

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but gangrene is basically tissue death and decomposition and it isn't specific or different in chams. If you have some sort of tissue damaging injury (like frostbite for example...sorry all, I just finished reading Jon Krakauer's Into Thin Air) that gets infected and isn't treated or cleaned away, more and more tissue can end up dying. The area becomes gangrenous.
 
It's just odd all her feet caught it at the same time and if there could be a fungus or something she could of walked on that could cause such a thing. There isnt anything in her enclosure that could of injured her. Is too high humidity a possibility?
 
It's just odd all her feet caught it at the same time and if there could be a fungus or something she could of walked on that could cause such a thing. There isnt anything in her enclosure that could of injured her. Is too high humidity a possibility?

Do you use biovine or other artificial vines (can get moldy if it never dries out)? Sandblasted grapevine (soft surface and very prone to mold)? Have you ever scrubbed or sterilized her perches? They do need to be cleaned or changed out periodically. And, once she gets some sort of infection she can spread it to her other feet. There could be tiny cuts on her feet from rough wire or even fiberglass screen if she walks the mesh a lot or wedges her toes through the mesh. Hard to say.
 
When you first noticed the infected or injured area, how long did you let it go before you got medical help? Or did you try any at home treatment? The reason I ask is I have an adult panther (will be 3 in Nov) and he got these sores or cuts on his back feet on the pad underneath. I put neosporin on and still did not like they way it looked after a few days I got him into a vet. He looked at the feet and told me there was no infection or bacterial looking issue but he thought he had cut his feet on my outdoor enclosure as I was using chicken wire which I just changed out to coated wire.. I have had him on Baytril and topically applying silver sulvadene. It is clearing up thank god, but it is slow to heal. I was just wondering how long it took for gangrene to set in...
 
Do you use biovine or other artificial vines (can get moldy if it never dries out)? Sandblasted grapevine (soft surface and very prone to mold)? Have you ever scrubbed or sterilized her perches? They do need to be cleaned or changed out periodically. And, once she gets some sort of infection she can spread it to her other feet. There could be tiny cuts on her feet from rough wire or even fiberglass screen if she walks the mesh a lot or wedges her toes through the mesh. Hard to say.

i think you have a point. i also used soil substrate which was always moist, never seemed to dry which i believe could of been another cause. (it had been in there only 2 weeks though)
 
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